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Ha! Germany attacking France in the first turn, who would have thought it. 
It seems the Kaiser is listening too much to General Schlieffen.
Luckily, General Foch forsaw this dastardly and unprovoked attack and protected La Grande Nation.
Vive la France!
It seems the Kaiser is listening too much to General Schlieffen.
Luckily, General Foch forsaw this dastardly and unprovoked attack and protected La Grande Nation.
Vive la France!
Yeah, because there is this belief that Germany getting Belgium becomes a colossus which must be targeted by everyone in the board. I think that is totally unfair on Germany, as even with 3 builds, it cannot sustain an attack from any pair of England, Russia and France.
About letting Russia into Sweden, we all know who benefits more from denying Sweden to Russia. It's England rather than Germany.
F Kie - Hol is as much anti-British as anti-French. The goal is Belgium, of course, and, from the diplomatic communications I looked at, an E/F alliance was a definite possibility.
If the move to Bur had succeeded, the best you could do was to deny me Belgium, and that, as I had told you, would be a favorable scenario. England does not need 2 builds in 1901 to thrive. However, we wanted a stronger position to negotiate, as Germany starts out in a poorer position, and is often threatened with the Russia mallet, and we know that, both in history and in diplomacy, two front wars are the bane of Germany.
On to Eastern matters, it is with great concern that we see Russia and Turkey trusting each other enough to not have any of the sides move into BLA. Is the Juggernaut arising?
Yes, but to be fair, it's true of most powers that with everyone at 4-5 SCs (as is usually the case after 1901 given perfect moves), they can't fend off a simultaneous attack by two opponents on different vectors of advance - Germany is no exception to this. Germany's central position is a weakness in this respect as it permits divergent axes of advance, but it is also a strength, and it should be able to handle any one of its opponents if it can secure the neutrality of the other two (or at least keep them busy enough to ignore Germany). Taken together, the Lowlands offer an excellent position to knock out France or push into the North Sea against Britain, preferably the former, and if it can take out either of these powers while the other is occupied, even the remaining two powers combined may be hard-pressed to stop it without bringing in a third (Italy or A-H, likely as not), which in turn entails significant coordination issues Germany won't have to deal with. Hence, colossus. It's not what you are, but what you are positioned to become. It's harder for either Britain or France to take both Lowland territories without careful screw-ups by both Germany and the other power, and they don't have as easy access to Ruh/Mun to attack France or Hel/Den to go after the Isles.
Meanwhile, a Russian Sweden isn't a threat to Britain unless armies start moving north, or unless Russia builds fleets in the Barents and Baltic in addition to its starting fleet. Neither of these can be done unless Russia is supremely confident about its other fronts given its significant land frontage, and anything else, it seems, could be closed off by Britain's strong naval start, which conventionally leads into the North Sea regions starting in the Spring and only builds further from there. Any possible threat to Britain would come not from Russian Sweden, but only if Russia is in position to take Norway, Denmark, and probably the Skaggerak (by extension), which tends to be easily telegraphed from military movements due to the distances involved.
At least, I think that's the case from a superficial read...my math may be faulty, and this is my first game of Classic Diplomacy and only my second of any incarnation of the game, which makes me rather inexperienced. Besides, this is, of course, purely an intellectual exercise, and disregards any specific diplomatic situations that have and may yet arise in the game behind the curtains. If you want my opinion as a Russian diplomat, you'll have to discuss that with me directly in your official capcity.
Austria is screwed.
My first game was Diplomacy I. Thus I am rather inexperienced as well.
My first game was Diplomacy I. Thus I am rather inexperienced as well.
As for now, it seems that no country is in need of new blood. So Enk and Hearth (if that is a serious in post ) can choose whatever country they want.
) can choose whatever country they want.
Why in the world would you think that?
You are positioned to take Greece and Serbia. Russia is in a completely non-threatening position. Italy is in a much less threatening position than some more popular openings would present for you.
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Italy wouldn't mind a second junior diplomat. We can split the duties accordingly. One for the west triangle, one for the east triangle. I simply set the overall policy and you guys implement it.
Indeed, but your moves still carry a degree of hostility towards Austria. And Turkey and Russia trusting each other enough not to move into BLA...
Then, Turkey can stand him off Greece.
And I wouldn't call Russia non-threatening, in 1902 they can come hard on Austria, being able to deploy 2 builds in the South.
Yes, but to be fair, it's true of most powers that with everyone at 4-5 SCs (as is usually the case after 1901 given perfect moves), they can't fend off a simultaneous attack by two opponents on different vectors of advance - Germany is no exception to this. Germany's central position is a weakness in this respect as it permits divergent axes of advance, but it is also a strength, and it should be able to handle any one of its opponents if it can secure the neutrality of the other two (or at least keep them busy enough to ignore Germany). Taken together, the Lowlands offer an excellent position to knock out France or push into the North Sea against Britain, preferably the former, and if it can take out either of these powers while the other is occupied, even the remaining two powers combined may be hard-pressed to stop it without bringing in a third (Italy or A-H, likely as not), which in turn entails significant coordination issues Germany won't have to deal with. Hence, colossus. It's not what you are, but what you are positioned to become. It's harder for either Britain or France to take both Lowland territories without careful screw-ups by both Germany and the other power, and they don't have as easy access to Ruh/Mun to attack France or Hel/Den to go after the Isles.
Meanwhile, a Russian Sweden isn't a threat to Britain unless armies start moving north, or unless Russia builds fleets in the Barents and Baltic in addition to its starting fleet. Neither of these can be done unless Russia is supremely confident about its other fronts given its significant land frontage, and anything else, it seems, could be closed off by Britain's strong naval start, which conventionally leads into the North Sea regions starting in the Spring and only builds further from there. Any possible threat to Britain would come not from Russian Sweden, but only if Russia is in position to take Norway, Denmark, and probably the Skaggerak (by extension), which tends to be easily telegraphed from military movements due to the distances involved.
At least, I think that's the case from a superficial read...my math may be faulty, and this is my first game of Classic Diplomacy and only my second of any incarnation of the game, which makes me rather inexperienced. Besides, this is, of course, purely an intellectual exercise, and disregards any specific diplomatic situations that have and may yet arise in the game behind the curtains. If you want my opinion as a Russian diplomat, you'll have to discuss that with me directly in your official capcity.
It was more from an angle of blocking Russia out of Sweden angering them unnecessarily, and it often comes back to bite you. It gives important leverage in
negotiations, too. Also, for either England or Russia to completely dominate Scandinavia spells doom for Germany.
About the builds, you missed out the fact that Nth would then border 3 German SC's. If Germany is on the offensive, that wouldn't be as big an issue, but in a 2 on 1 situation, it would take a lot of forces to protect the shores. Also, Denmark is a weak spot (Swe, Ska, Nth linked to it). Also, two centers are linked to BAL, which is also a soft zone for Germany. So, if Russia has any fleet inside the Baltic, it becomes a true nightmare for Germany to fight them.
We can contrast this with a 6 center France. With 6 centers (Por, Spa and Bel), France has quite a formidable position. A combination of two of the other western powers (including Italy) is probably unable to make headway into France. And even a triple alliance would take so long that the countries would be exposed to attacks from other nations.
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The end is not yet, Kaiser Tamius! Not until we see foreign armies proudly parading in Vienna, that is.
Foreign Minister Gustav, Graf von Thund and Hohenstein is far less pessimistic about little Austria's future. At the same time, I am still pessimistic.
Foreign Minister Gustav, Graf von Thund and Hohenstein is far less pessimistic about little Austria's future. At the same time, I am still pessimistic.
I second this. I could use someone to help me with the workload.
It has come to light that one country I thought I could trust is less trustworthy than I originally thought.
With that being said, new deals are now being considered by Italy.
With that being said, new deals are now being considered by Italy.
Great Britain has contacted all the potentates she cares to speak with, and is now patiently waiting for their replies over a spot of tea and a nice game of rummy.
As for now, it seems that no country is in need of new blood. So Enk and Hearth (if that is a serious in post
May be being available for sub will be good choice.
President Adamou would like to know when the leaves will fall from the trees, when the sun will diminish and when he will need to bring out the spray tan?..
Whens deadline?
Whens deadline?
Today, 18:00 GMT.
Btw, the current deadline is included in the post no.4 in this thread.