Do you think the DLC with focus on diplomacy will be small or big (like Megacorp and Apocalypse)?
Diplomacy = big or small DLC?
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Big. There will probably be a minor cosmetic or story DLC first that will be released maybe the same time as a fair sized patch that ties up the post megacorp support cycle. Then they'll start going to town on the big diplomacy one.
It will depend a lot on whether diplomacy is improved for everyone, or if it only really adds stuff for expansion-owners. We could have a big diplomacy update with more features for federations, diplomatic/espionnage mana, internal politics including sector specializations depending on governement type etc, released together with a DLC focused on a few unique empire playstyles based on diplomacy.
But we could also have a relatively small update with some basic changes, and a big expansion with federation customization, for instance.
Anyway there is no definitive answer yet. Lots of people speculate there will be a small story pack first, then a big diplo expansion, but that's speculation.
But we could also have a relatively small update with some basic changes, and a big expansion with federation customization, for instance.
Anyway there is no definitive answer yet. Lots of people speculate there will be a small story pack first, then a big diplo expansion, but that's speculation.
Rule of thumb for Stellaris patches and DLC:
- If it improves on the features of the base game -> Free patch.
- If it includes new content and mechanics -> DLC.
That's why I think the diplomacy rework will come as a free update, while additional content that makes use of the new mechanics (i.e. espionage) will be released as paid DLC.
- If it improves on the features of the base game -> Free patch.
- If it includes new content and mechanics -> DLC.
That's why I think the diplomacy rework will come as a free update, while additional content that makes use of the new mechanics (i.e. espionage) will be released as paid DLC.
Hopefully and I think big. I'm guessing it'll be a combined diplomacy/espionage system. Diplomacy I think can be worked on and improved without too much complication, but espionage will have to be carefully calibrated to fit into the mold of diplomacy. Enough incentive to use it, but not so overpowering everything else. Not too simplified as to be boring as 'increase funding to counterespionage/espionage',but not so clunky to be avoided.
Trade I think has room for growth and further depth as well (especially in terms of diplomacy). Might be a focus since it was just introduced.
Trade I think has room for growth and further depth as well (especially in terms of diplomacy). Might be a focus since it was just introduced.
This. Next thing is probably a Story Pack, somewhere around April-May 2019, if I look at the pattern of other Story pack's between big DLC's.
Maybe a Species Pack also somewhere. But I am guessing the next big DLC will be at the tail end of 2019 (october-november).
Would be nice if we got something to spend influence on mid/late game besides claims.
I think at least a base version of espionage (e.g. uncover some planets, destroy random building) will be included in the free patch, but the fleshed out version(e.g. influencing the population(boost party popularity in hoi4), supporting a civil war, exchanging leaders, giving them a fake negative diplo modifier by saying they have a collosus planned(irak style cb), making their population addicted to certain drugs(opium wars), ...)
The only thing I am slightly worried about, but that's just me maybe, is the direction the devs are taking Stellaris after Wiz leaving for another project. Wiz was the heart and soul of Stellaris, so I hope they stay around his vision.
I hope diplomacy includes internal politics as well. Like turning sectors into political entities than can eventually try to secede. Maybe improving the faction system
And a factions rework as well. As they stand now they are simple influence farms.
I hope, the dlc will be huuuge (with a lot more "u"s in it) 
In my opinion, there are a lot of things, that could be improved/ revamped regarding the current diplomacy-mechanics.
In my opinion, there are a lot of things, that could be improved/ revamped regarding the current diplomacy-mechanics.