Is anyone else having trouble starting Psionics?
I've only relevantly had my hands on the game for like the last 3 weeks, prior that the last time I played was 1.6. So... maybe this is normal, idk.
Anyway, I'm having trouble reliably getting the Psionic Theory tech that gates the whole psi tree.
1. I know you can get it from an anomaly if you just happen to get Echoes from the Deep and happen to do that anomaly with a Paranoid scientist
2. I know you can get it with a 25% chance from the Dark Portal if you're spiritualist.
3. I know you can get it if you spawn and survey first and own the living sea planet.
4. I know you have a 10% chance of getting a special project for it if you have a colony within 3 spaces of the Caravaneer homeworld.
Thats all pretty slim pickings. Flavorful to be sure, but the best chance is the Dark Portal, which afaik only works if you're spiritualist anyway.
Thats fine I guess, except that it seems much harder to find Psionic Theory in the normal tech roster than it used to be. I used to be able to at least scum scientists for one with the Psionic Expertise trait, except:
It seems that in order to get psionic expertise on a Scientist from the normal pool, you need to already have Psionic Theory?
That doesnt even make sense, considering that Psionic Theory's weights still have a x8 chance for it to spawn if you have a scientist with Psionic Expertise.
So... you need Psionic Expertise to get Psionic Theory, but you need Psionic Theory to get Psionic Expertiese... ok...
Pretty much the only semi-reliable way to get the tech it seems is to be Fanatic Spiritualist and be researching with a Maniacal scientist, but even that doesnt boost the chance very much. I dont always want to be playing a full Fanatic Spiritual, and its still rare if you're using just Maniacal. I've gone 200 years and still not found it.
Is there something im missing, or is this whole Ascension Path extremely difficult to start? I can easily start both the robot and genetic paths by year 50, quite reliably.
I've only relevantly had my hands on the game for like the last 3 weeks, prior that the last time I played was 1.6. So... maybe this is normal, idk.
Anyway, I'm having trouble reliably getting the Psionic Theory tech that gates the whole psi tree.
1. I know you can get it from an anomaly if you just happen to get Echoes from the Deep and happen to do that anomaly with a Paranoid scientist
2. I know you can get it with a 25% chance from the Dark Portal if you're spiritualist.
3. I know you can get it if you spawn and survey first and own the living sea planet.
4. I know you have a 10% chance of getting a special project for it if you have a colony within 3 spaces of the Caravaneer homeworld.
Thats all pretty slim pickings. Flavorful to be sure, but the best chance is the Dark Portal, which afaik only works if you're spiritualist anyway.
Thats fine I guess, except that it seems much harder to find Psionic Theory in the normal tech roster than it used to be. I used to be able to at least scum scientists for one with the Psionic Expertise trait, except:
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leader_trait = { scientist }
leader_class = { scientist }
prerequisites = { tech_psionic_theory }It seems that in order to get psionic expertise on a Scientist from the normal pool, you need to already have Psionic Theory?
That doesnt even make sense, considering that Psionic Theory's weights still have a x8 chance for it to spawn if you have a scientist with Psionic Expertise.
So... you need Psionic Expertise to get Psionic Theory, but you need Psionic Theory to get Psionic Expertiese... ok...
Pretty much the only semi-reliable way to get the tech it seems is to be Fanatic Spiritualist and be researching with a Maniacal scientist, but even that doesnt boost the chance very much. I dont always want to be playing a full Fanatic Spiritual, and its still rare if you're using just Maniacal. I've gone 200 years and still not found it.
Is there something im missing, or is this whole Ascension Path extremely difficult to start? I can easily start both the robot and genetic paths by year 50, quite reliably.
