"Differing war philosophy" - Impossible to get alliance.
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This is definitely not it. I was trying to make an alliance with a Federation Builder as a Scientific Directorate and I got war philosophy penalty. A Federation Builder should be most open to alliances. Considering I was Xenophile and Materialist. If a Federation Builder is that picky about who they accept, they'd never get a federation built.
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If someone stops just short of where they will take an alliance there are some easy ways to push them over. You get +10 for giving them a research treaty. You get +25 for giving them a non-aggression pledge.
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Arnt those just opinion modifiers, and opinion is just a fraction of the decision to accept the alliance.
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Filed a bug thread for a better explanation, I think from the amount of confusion this isn't WAD.
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...ing-war-philosophy-means-what-exactly.928595/
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...ing-war-philosophy-means-what-exactly.928595/
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It seems to be a hardcoded modifier, its localisation tag is "DIFFERENT_WAR_PHILOSOPHY" but I can't find it in any other file.
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It's not that. I had a federation builder with almost the same ethos as me refusing to join who went happily with the guy next door who had a completely different ethos
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Pretty sure it refers to different policies like war economy, orbital bombardment, maybe even first contact response.
I think it is working as intended just maybe not explained as well as it could be.
It is not the thing listed under government type.
I think it is working as intended just maybe not explained as well as it could be.
It is not the thing listed under government type.
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This, definitely. It looks like a normal feature, but it is just nor explained at all, so we're left trying to understand what it actually means. My guess was actually the same as yours.
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That would make sense. When I did change war economy one empire dropped the -20. My bombardment and anything else used must have already matched. What needs to happen, is when you mouse over, it tells you exactly what needs to change. Also maybe a drop in the punishment. If my bombardment matches but war economy doesn't, it should give me a -10. That's running off the idea those two are all that's counted.
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What I do wonder is if the weights to each policy differ for each race depending on their ethos. I currently have a -5 modifier (I think) to one race. Maybe one type of race shrugs their shoulders if you bomb a planet to hell but another race may view that as a crime against humanity/whatever the term for aliens would be.
I assumed since it's philosophy and NOT policy, it's referring to whether you are militarist, pacifist, etc.
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Hey I'm also having this issue as a fanatic materialist individualist trying to get an alliance with a fanatic xenophile individualist empire. I'm literally unable to make any alliances, but that one is capped at 0 with every single other modifier. I also have tested the different war policies: orbital bombardment and war economy, and it all had no effect, even after waiting a month
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I had same issue with two species who loved me but had -50 bc of differing war philosophy. I had assumed it was ethos related and thus didn't know what to do. Hopefully they'll clarify soon.
Guys, its your policies about various waroptions. You'll need to change your orbital bombartment and war dynamicitiy settings to match. The hard part is finding the matching set!
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Don't think it's a good feature. If ethics and government types are compatible, and they like you, you should be able to ally with them. Stance on bombardment and war economy seem trivial and shouldn't factor so heavily in AIs decisions. But atm, the AI seems broken in more way than one.
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