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Different ideologies should have different flags

I wish switching an ideology will have a change on national flag. Although it's not quite close to reality, but if usa changes it's government style from market liberal to stalinism; flag should change into flag similar to soviet union automatically. That would be :cool:
 
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Why should a flag change, just because a country goes communist doesn't mean it has to put a Hammer and Sickle on it's flag.
 

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I am for this idea because its historical sense. Nazi invade the other nations with a prussiatic flag or Italian republic with kingdom flag but there is no king at all: It is honestly to say that it is non-sence. If the political system changed greatly, the new flag appropriate the new system is need, I think. :cool:

(I must say that I am also for the good paradox policy about Nazi real flag because the real nazi flag could hurts someone's heart as well as its illegal status. I using that case only for a easy example. That's all. ;) )
 

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Personally instead of seeing the Prussian flag, I'd rather see the Germans with a reverse Japanese flag, meaning that the Swastika was removed.

That way it would feel more accurate, but still politically correct.
 

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Maj. von Mauser said:
Personally instead of seeing the Prussian flag, I'd rather see the Germans with a reverse Japanese flag, meaning that the Swastika was removed.

That way it would feel more accurate, but still politically correct.

Or an Iron cross in the middle of it instead of a Swastika.


I'm also for the flag changing idea. Like in Victoria. So post-war Italy doesn't have the arms of the House of Savoy in its flag, Soviet puppet states in Eastern Europe adobt the right flag after their defeat, etc.
 

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Maj. von Mauser said:
Personally instead of seeing the Prussian flag, I'd rather see the Germans with a reverse Japanese flag, meaning that the Swastika was removed.

That way it would feel more accurate, but still politically correct.

Now, I don't know the exact wording of the laws, but it isn't simply the swastika. Many other Nazi symbols are banned, as well. Simply removing the swastika doesn't mean that that flag would be legal, necessarily. Either way, I doubt they will change that aspect.
 

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Maj. von Mauser said:
Why should a flag change, just because a country goes communist doesn't mean it has to put a Hammer and Sickle on it's flag.
Except when a government adopts a radically significantly different ideology, it almost always changes its flag. Also usually happens in revolutions and (less often) coups.
 

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An interesting example is Greece. The shade of blue in the flag has changed when the leaders have changed. This happened several times during the 20th centrury.

I highly support the idea of different flags for different ideologies. PI might not want to start guessing what the flags would have looked like in unhistorical cases (e.g. Stalinist USA), but there should be a possibility to mod them in.
 
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Maj. von Mauser said:
Why should a flag change, just because a country goes communist doesn't mean it has to put a Hammer and Sickle on it's flag.
Actually, it often does. ;)
 

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I agree a country doesn't necessarily change its flag when it changes its system, but in some cases the flag would absolutely be changed - There is no way a country turned communist would still use a flag with e.g. a royal coat of arms or colonial symbols in it.
 

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Now, I don't know the exact wording of the laws, but it isn't simply the swastika. Many other Nazi symbols are banned, as well. Simply removing the swastika doesn't mean that that flag would be legal, necessarily. Either way, I doubt they will change that aspect.
The Iron cross isn't banned.
 

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This makes sense. If Germany becomes a democracy they should change to the modern tricolor. Japan should have the rising sun flag and change to the red dot if they become democratic.

The Japanese flag was never the "rising sun" flag. That was just a military flag.

That'd be the same as using this flag for the modern USA. The flag of Japan was always a Red dot on a white background.
 
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Now, I don't know the exact wording of the laws, but it isn't simply the swastika. Many other Nazi symbols are banned, as well. Simply removing the swastika doesn't mean that that flag would be legal, necessarily. Either way, I doubt they will change that aspect.

Ironic. Facists banning Nazi imagery. Censor more, mein government. Feh.
 

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In the interest of steering this thread away from disaster I don't see the issue with a new flag for a communist USA or UK. Would a Soviet puppet of Canada really have the British regalia (or w/e its called) on it? No I imagine it would have a hammer and sickle.
 
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