Did "Wants our provinces"(WYP) become worse with 1.8?

[Targor]

I kinda have the feeling. It was pretty sever (and seemingly random) when introduced but got better with 1.6.3 (or maybe I was just lucky for a while?)
But now in 1.8 it seems kinda random and crazy again, I'm playing Theodoro any my allies are (were) Muscovy (not Russia!) and Poland-Lithuania. Muscovy already broke the alliance twice because of -200 WYP and entered it again, a third time I could hold the alliance at +3 relations (with -200 WYP) and via a war I kept them positive for a few months and suddenly WYP was gone again and alliance was secure. (Currently they have formed Russia and WYP is interesting enough a little lower , -173, but doesn't seem to vanish again, but since they have now claims on many of my provinces that's not too surprising).

Poland-Lithuania was similar but less hard, stable for most of the time but then again for a few monts about -160 or so WYP, luckily not enough to break alliance and suddenly gone again.

 

[Denjell]

In my experience, aslong as the malus doesnt put you that much down, it stays away, but once they become hostile its pretty hard to get rid off unless they become more hostile towards other countries.

 

[Jeggred86]

I think it depends on the missions they get. Playing Najd at the moment and have the Ottomans as my best buddy (+200 relations from same enemies and returned cores). I just fought a hard war without them because they where busy and got my Iraq vassal all it's cores back and suddenly Ottomans break the alliance because they got the mission to conquer Mesopotamia and got claims on all the provinces of Iraq. I had to release my vassal to get the alliance back. I think I will let them eat parts of Iraq and only take Basra for myself to get the land connection to India. That's "only" -50 relations...

 

[redomer]

I got -200 with Russia as Germany. They got a mission for the spice islands (I owend all of java) and broke our longterm alliance then they rivaled me. It was really weird. They didn't have much of a navy and a smaller army. When their mission got canceled they offered a new alliance.

It seems relative strenght is no longer important with 'wants your provinces'.

 

[Targor]

At leaste one time Muscovy broke the alliance their current mission was to take Nowgorod (was still a OPM in capital Nowgorod), I checked because first I thought they maybe took the mission to conquer Kazan and got claims on a few of my provinces.