Did Hearts of Iron IV get its bid for beta Accepted?
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At least some words from Johan in the stream tomorrow would be very much appreciated. On the one side, the game seems to be totally playable for me, from what i can tell from world war wednesday. On the other side i am not a game developing expert...But the game status couldn't be too bad from what i've seen...
And since the devs said, they read everything in the forums, we'll see, what their decision will be tomorrow or on friday...
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NOOOOO!!! thats when I start my 4 month job on a ship!
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As someone who was fairly dissappointed of their communication or lack thereof this spring i wouldn't put so much weight on the rejected beta.
Since they havent committed themselves to a release date they can take as much time as they think is necessary or can afford. We only measure their progress against the date we estimate they can release based on some information from them. (Want to reach beta in Dec, Beta takes 3to 6 months etc.) It seems they learned their lesson and when Johan starts the sentence with: "I shouldn't mention any dates..." he doesn't.
If you think better a later game than a bad game, sure. But we already have a late game, about a year later then their first intended release date.
Secondly there is something like diminishing returns on time invested at a certain point. When they release the game it will have bugs and flaws, an infinite amount of time developing doesnt translate into an infinetly good game. I am sure they want to get to a release themselves and are weighing the pros and cons of more months development.
I do hope as many others here that they will be able to release within the coming 6 months but a rejected beta doesnt change my outlook for the game. Its been the same since Q2 This year: I am waiting for the announcement of a release date.
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Since they havent committed themselves to a release date they can take as much time as they think is necessary or can afford. We only measure their progress against the date we estimate they can release based on some information from them. (Want to reach beta in Dec, Beta takes 3to 6 months etc.) It seems they learned their lesson and when Johan starts the sentence with: "I shouldn't mention any dates..." he doesn't.
If you think better a later game than a bad game, sure. But we already have a late game, about a year later then their first intended release date.
Secondly there is something like diminishing returns on time invested at a certain point. When they release the game it will have bugs and flaws, an infinite amount of time developing doesnt translate into an infinetly good game. I am sure they want to get to a release themselves and are weighing the pros and cons of more months development.
I do hope as many others here that they will be able to release within the coming 6 months but a rejected beta doesnt change my outlook for the game. Its been the same since Q2 This year: I am waiting for the announcement of a release date.
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https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...ithin-2015-really.859521/page-4#post-19415100
That should bring you right to Johan's post, its not six months after beta its six months after alpha which was approved.
We are on track for a late Q1 - early Q2 release if the beta is on track.
But that just brings us back to the original question of if the beta was approved
That should bring you right to Johan's post, its not six months after beta its six months after alpha which was approved.
We are on track for a late Q1 - early Q2 release if the beta is on track.
But that just brings us back to the original question of if the beta was approved
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Thanks for the link! I had that statement from Johan in my mind as well. Let's hope we get some infos tomorrow...
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Yes, but he is talking about the "earliest possible release"
I guess they are trying to hit the beta milestone in December as they intended so i hope they soon feel confident enough to commit to a release date. Maybe not this year anymore but maybe January? But i learned my lesson to be patient and keep my expectations low. It will be here, when its here.
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A release date would be much appreciated, but i won't bet on that to be announced soon. Ob the one hand, devs should take their time for the game. And i understand that concerning alpha, where all the features are implemented. But if it hits beta, they should go balls deep, take 3 - 4 months to squash bugs and announce a release date. For me there is no real need for "take your time", if all features are set in stone. It is a phase, where you should have to set a release goal and hold on on that. But of course, that is only my humble opinion and pdx is free to do as they want. And so should they...
As for many branches and jobs: taking time is good. But if you take too long, people may question your competence in finding a solution in a reasonable amount of time. Putting some pressure can be good as well. You see quick results, but they may be crap...the best thing for me is a middle thing. First take your time (alpha) and then kick a** (beta). Let's see what pdx does...
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I have read that paradox beta takes between 3-6 month and I don't think the countdown have started yet as the game is not in beta. If they miss this time they may have to wait for the next year before they get a new shot of making a beta candidate.
This may be true @Denkt
But i wonder what happens in the forum here, if we face a june/july/august release in the worst case...
Don't know, don't think anything worse will happen then what happened in Q1 and Q2 this year.
When Paradox send out closed beta confirmation acceptance e-mails for EU4 back in the 2013, the full game was released only 2.5 month after that....
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However paradox may have changed their policies since then like what happened with the 2015 Q1 release date and 2015 Q2 release date of HOI4.
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Both CK2 and EU4 release datas were announced in the middle of closed beta testing 1 to 2 months prior to the release.
So I'm guessing a late February/March release is more likely than a June/July, but as you said things can change so you never know
So I'm guessing a late February/March release is more likely than a June/July, but as you said things can change so you never know
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Both CK2 and EU4 release datas were announced in the middle of closed beta testing 1 to 2 months prior to the release.
So I'm guessing a late February/March release is more likely that a June/July, but as you said things can change so you never know
If Beta takes at least 3 months, line Johan said, Q1 is off the table...
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Probably, though still hoping for a smooth beta testing
In Germany we say: "Die Hoffnung stirbt zuletzt!", which means translated "the hope is the last to die"
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Dont you worry i am not betting on anything, i do think as well that they should drive this home smoothly from here on out without more major delays.
I don't think you are necessarily wrong, but that is more because of the obvious reasoning behind that, than because johan said so. The lesson i learned is to not overvalue Dev statements and quotes from Johan get thrown around too often as if they will be holy truth for all eternity. Johan also once said there will be a release Q12015, then Podcat said Q2015 *pinky swear* and then Johan said there couldn't be possible any release this year because obviously.
I guess all i am saying that their communication policy has left me with a twitch in the eye whenever i see dev statements used in discussions. Not that they are wrong, its just... there are damages only a Fresh install of HOI IV can cure....
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