Did CKII introduce anti-biotics and modern healthcare in the game?

[Blastaz]

"Frey"?

Please.

 

[Luzur]

my chars all died of old age, wars or murder, never by disease.

 

[A_Dane]

tbh, the child death is fine with me, while it was part of the fun in the old one, If my rulers lived past the age of 50, I'd have on average 15 children, if not more. Half of them already being dead. In this game, I don't get much more than 5 kids on average, but I really think there should be more deaths at childbirth, I've only had 1 wife die on me yet. But on the other hand, my rulers rarely live past the age of 45.. Whenever one of them gets sick after he hit 40, they die almost instantly

EDIT: also, I support notion of "Frey"

 

[MasterofMagic]

Yes, the devs have said they toned down both infant mortality and fertility. So you have fewer children than people did historically but they are more likely to survive to adulthood.

I have had my ruler die of an illness though.

Hah darn if that's so my wife has churned out 5 kids and she's not even 25 yet. lol They all alive and well too. Talk about fertile I can just look at her and she giggles and gets pregnant. I'm going to have to have her killed just to be able to afford all these lil brats. Unfortunately it costs 250gp to have someone assassinated now.

 

[Richlo]

I haven't played very long yet, been through 3 rulers, and none of them has lived to 40.

 

[S0ny B1ack]

Uh in my campaign I have lost most of my family. As in 4/5 of them, all dead.

I have to say that most of my family in my poland game is dead too, but other than my initial king i have yet to see someone die of old age After he died leaving 8 children behind (from which 2 or 3 of the oldest also had 5+ kids already) the kinslaying begun

 

[S0ny B1ack]

Hah darn if that's so my wife has churned out 5 kids and she's not even 25 yet. lol They all alive and well too. Talk about fertile I can just look at her and she giggles and gets pregnant. I'm going to have to have her killed just to be able to afford all these lil brats. Unfortunately it costs 250gp to have someone assassinated now.

For your wife the plot might be more usefull than the "normal" way

Also when triing to assasinate someone first alwys build a spy network in the province where he lives with your spymaster - i haven't used that feature much in the beggining, but when i used it the first time i saw the HUGE impact

 

[Drakken]

my chars all died of old age, wars or murder, never by disease.

It's not my case, plenty of my characters die young of smallpox or consumption during outbreaks.

 

[MasterofMagic]

For your wife the plot might be more usefull than the "normal" way

Also when triing to assasinate someone first alwys build a spy network in the province where he lives with your spymaster - i haven't used that feature much in the beggining, but when i used it the first time i saw the HUGE impact

It's funny but I do not get that PLOT, the only ones I get are to be some council member in my liege's court or some GREAT person that needs 1000 prestige and I won't see that with a brand new game ruler.

 

[unmerged(436066)]

It worked splendidly in CK1 and provided a lot of tension and challenge to the game. There your character could even gain negative traits like depressed if his children or spouse died. It absolutely added to the game and the atmosphere as a whole. Not having even a remote chance of having the mother or child die in birth is just, well, lame.

Now kids and mothers always survive birth and 99% of kids reach adulthood. That special fear you had in CK1 of your heir with awesome stats and traits dying so you had to do with his idiot sibling is now all gone. Shame.

I had never seen my character in CK1 grow depressed from an heirs death. I have, however, seen this in CK2 .

 

[S0ny B1ack]

It's funny but I do not get that PLOT, the only ones I get are to be some council member in my liege's court or some GREAT person that needs 1000 prestige and I won't see that with a brand new game ruler.

OK thats weird :s the kill your wife plot is the only one i had available for all characters, though i played much time as a king, who doesn't get any other plots (only ambitions but no other plots)... (there was a time where i was reduced to a duchy and lost my kingdom, but i haven't payed attention if the kill your wife was still present between all other plots which became available)

 

[InnocentIII]

I'd say he earned himself a much better nickname than cruel.

His wife named him that during her umpteenth labor.

I've had a king live an annoyingly long time, too. And I agree that "I'm feeling ill" doesn't have any real fear factor anymore. However, overall I've lost my rulers at a range of very appropriate ages, even discounting the hale and hearty 20-somethings who were murdered.

 

[ChinpoUK]

In my Wales game I had 3 Kings die in about 2 years. It all started fairly normal with my 56 year old King dying leaving the Throne to his 11 year old son, who then died about 4 months later. (The King's brother rebelling against him, wanting to be King himself). Leaving the Throne to his 2 year old brother who then died at age 2. Leaving the throne to his "twin" (born around the same time) who then died of typhoid or something less than a month later. I barely have any male heirs left.

EDIT: My last remaining male heir (age 13, became King when he was 5) is now pneumonic. Shame, I thought he was actually going to end 8 years of having a Regency. Bah humbug!

 

[sbr]

I'd say he earned himself a much better nickname than cruel.

Think about the poor women sleeping with a 102 year old, that seems cruel.

 

[Jak9090]

is this hardcoded? if nto I expect a mod will come out some day soon, that makes the game more oriented towards those of us that prefer a historical simulation, these days I think paradox caters to the more mainstream audience.

 

[TheCrusaderKing]

Yeah in my De Barcelona game I've had some long lived, fertile kings. 1230 and my dynasty has had a total of 312 members with 120 living. Thats a big family lol.

 

[Rambo]

Yeah, it can be crazy some times.
Usually its okay, but then you get people like "King Gabriel the Cruel of Burgundy"

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All those kids (19 in all) and that age!

Are you playing a mod? I have never seen the map nearly that fragmented.

 

[senior_hombre]

Personally, I'd rather have them keep the high mortality from the first game, and maybe aggressively cull/delete dead kids from the database of non-player dynasties (so the file isn't bloated).

It made the game feel more realistic and more uncertain.

The game is still amazing, by the way!

+1

 

[Varam]

Are you playing a mod? I have never seen the map nearly that fragmented.

That would be because it's the "direct vassal" mapmode, not the political map.

 

[KroganElite]

I read somewhere on this forum that they reduced mortality and tried to balance it by decreasing fertility.