Watching the streamers has convinced one of my friends to pre-order the game. Hes an old time fan of the older gamers but wasn't sure this would be any good. The streamers convinced him in one day. lol
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Devs, can we get a streamer who knows BT mechanics?
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YouTuber here who backed Battletech on Kickstarter. I'm also yet another person who doesn't know much about Battletech tabletop (or anything really), and my interest in Battletech is almost exclusively due to the fact I love tactical games (well over a thousand hours in XCOM 1 / XCOM 2). I've been lurking around this forum a lot in the past week or two, and I've done a lot of research about Battletech mechanics (before even considering making any videos or streaming it), but... quite frankly, I'm almost scared to cover it at this point. I enjoy the game, but I feel like some of the expectations I've seen/read are straight up impossible to meet (I'm not even sure if more coverage from someone who isn't a long time Battletech veteran would be welcome at all - regardless of how much effort he'd put into learning all the mechanics beforehand).
Just my 2 (euro)cents.
Just my 2 (euro)cents.
Remember that the loudest voices tend to represent the extreme positions, the ones who feel like they need to convince everyone of their point of view. Positions closer to the norm feel more accepted, and thus tend to have less to prove.
Remember also to adjust for your own confirmation bias -- if you go looking for hostile posts, you will most certainly find them (and vice versa).
Ultimately, if you feel like it's worth your time, cover it. There will undoubtedly be people you will reach that others have not. There will also be people you will never reach, through no fault of your own. Try not to care. Sadly, both haters and salt come with the territory of being a content creator, and a thick skin in sometimes required.
Just my humble opinion, of course.
No,no.no////////////// In BT everyone has an opinion and isn't shy about expressing it. Also "everyone" who plays BT makes errors. Anyone who claims differently is selling you something. Right now the vast majority of the complaints are due to not being able to play the game. Most of the mistakes I have seen are people new to the game,trying to go too fast and forgetting things or having an enemy popup and getting tunnel vision focus on that target and forgetting mission goals. All are normal and all are things BT players have done themselves. Don't let these "legends in their own minds" scare you off! There are a mass of new players you are helping out! Your vids are for the new people not overly critical grogs who are focusing on their wants and desires and can't play a game you are playing yet! So please,make the damn videos!~!!! Thank you............it is appreciated by the majority of us.
Well Morbus, people are going to disagree with your tactics even if you were a BT table top expert. I say dive in and enjoy a deep tactical game with a nice strategic overlay and piss on the complainers.
I'm a turn based strat fan and new to the Battletech universe. Streams are highly educating as I learn together with the streamer with respect to the game mechanics and the consequence of mech loadout and pilot skills combination.
Honestly, a great game which I would love to support all the way, but SOME people in the community are real die hard fans who think only THEY should play the game in a manner THEY see fit and proper, then tend to criticize newbies/streamers as if they are a bunch of idiots. Just too toxic and highly discouraging. If you dont like how they play it make your own video tutorial or better yet wait for the release and play the game as you want it silently, while others like us watch streams to know the consequence of each decision with the streamer and be able to play it well enough for during release.
Honestly, a great game which I would love to support all the way, but SOME people in the community are real die hard fans who think only THEY should play the game in a manner THEY see fit and proper, then tend to criticize newbies/streamers as if they are a bunch of idiots. Just too toxic and highly discouraging. If you dont like how they play it make your own video tutorial or better yet wait for the release and play the game as you want it silently, while others like us watch streams to know the consequence of each decision with the streamer and be able to play it well enough for during release.
Honestly, most of the crowd on this particular forum isn't the audience for streamers and YouTubers anyway. Many are only watching because they can't play the game yet, and will likely stop as soon as it's released.
If you think your usual viewers will enjoy it, go for it.
Don't worry - the vast majority aren't like that. It's just the typical loud tiny minority
BeagleTech is now!
That rapscallion has absconded with his family's ancestral BattleMech! HOW SCANDALOUS!
https://www.twitch.tv/beagsandjam
If you're not tuning into this you're not making good life decisions right now.
That rapscallion has absconded with his family's ancestral BattleMech! HOW SCANDALOUS!
https://www.twitch.tv/beagsandjam
If you're not tuning into this you're not making good life decisions right now.
It's Marbozir himself? Dude, don't let anything hold back.
I fully appreciate if you wanna do research for your content, which is always a great sign of professional approach, but do not hold back on releasing your content.
Just do your thing, don't be scared about the reactions.
I know fully well how incredibly dedicated and hardcore the BT-fans are because it's very dear to them. Unfortunately that can come across very negatively towards newcomers at times.
That's why I'm so against the gatekeeping and general negativity, because that's what hurts the franchise instead of making it more popular, and I'm not much of a BT-fan myself.
HBS's approach to building their community has always been very positive and welcoming so I wanna make sure it continues.
So, I can't wait to see your vids, I've enjoyed a lot of your previous stuff!
One of the things that I hope that this game can do is to introduce the Battletech universe to new fans. The franchise has been around for a long time, but not a lot has happened with it recently. I am really excited about is the amount of lore that HBS has included in the game. The recent Intro Cinematic shows some important parts of the Battletech timeline, the first KF Drive test, the growth of the Star League, and the Amaris coup.
I look forward to welcoming many new MechWarriors over the coming days, weeks, months, and in success, years. It is a good time to be a Battletech fan!
I look forward to welcoming many new MechWarriors over the coming days, weeks, months, and in success, years. It is a good time to be a Battletech fan!
I will be picking this up to stream / make videos about once the game unlocks for me.
If you don't know who I am, no worries.
I was known around these parts for my extremely ruthless approach to EUIV. For example, my guide to getting the Luck of The Irish achievement in under 16 years, by exploiting development mechanics, show strength, etc (Still apparently one of steams rarest achievements). Conquering the world in under 200 years, etc.
I am known in other parts for finding ridiculously exploitative strategies and am proud to have had titles such as Shogun II: Total War, Supreme Commander, C&C Generals and others hot-fixed to stop my non-sense.
To get you in the mood for BattleTech and without spoiling it in anyway, I did a "You Should Have Played" it video for my friends, on the topic of Mech Commander, a very similar game from long, long ago...
Edit: I actually never played TT BattleTech but I did keep up with the rules and lore, however the game of choice in my community was 40k. Still, I know enough to have a deep and profound dislike of Space-Switzerland (Also known as ComStar).
If you don't know who I am, no worries.
I was known around these parts for my extremely ruthless approach to EUIV
. For example, my guide to getting the Luck of The Irish achievement in under 16 years, by exploiting development mechanics, show strength, etc (Still apparently one of steams rarest achievements). Conquering the world in under 200 years, etc.I am known in other parts for finding ridiculously exploitative strategies and am proud to have had titles such as Shogun II: Total War, Supreme Commander, C&C Generals and others hot-fixed to stop my non-sense
.To get you in the mood for BattleTech and without spoiling it in anyway, I did a "You Should Have Played" it video for my friends, on the topic of Mech Commander, a very similar game from long, long ago...
Edit: I actually never played TT BattleTech but I did keep up with the rules and lore, however the game of choice in my community was 40k. Still, I know enough to have a deep and profound dislike of Space-Switzerland (Also known as ComStar)
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Personally I have no hate against pre release been given to streamers/Youtubers with a whole lot of people already. Its about pulling in people who havent already seen the game and getting them excited, and more people buying means higher chance of DLC *Cough*. I only learnt of the BattleTech kickstarter thanks to a large Youtuber.
That being said there is now a fairly large number of streamers/youtubers up and running so education vs entertainment shouldn't be hard to find just have to hunt around.
I feel a a bit dirty for self promotion but since I am here, I have started the campaign.
That being said there is now a fairly large number of streamers/youtubers up and running so education vs entertainment shouldn't be hard to find just have to hunt around.
I feel a a bit dirty for self promotion but since I am here, I have started the campaign.
I don't know if there's an specific reason why, but I've been finding the streamers newer to Battletech more entertaining to watch than the ones who are familiar with the game. But considering all the backseat gaming that's been going on in the streams it's no surprise that people want to see someone who is already min/maxing.
can recommend this streamer, not a veteran, but put in many hours so far and is tactically pretty solid and his stream is entertaining imho:
https://www.twitch.tv/wolfsgorawr
https://www.twitch.tv/wolfsgorawr
There's a real satisfaction in watching somebody pick up a beloved hobby of yours and start fumbling through the early stages, enthusiastic about learning more. Those lightbulb moments when everything clicks and you suddenly realize what you've been doing wrong, and those times when you set up a series of maneuvers that plays out exactly according to plan - that's a lot of the fun in a game as complex as this. Eventually you learn enough that they stop coming along, so you look to newcomers to enjoy the pure awesomeness of those "eureka!" moments again.
My advice for streamers is to just barrel on full steam ahead. In time, the cranky "there's only one right way to play" grognards will get fed up and leave, and the fun grognards will be left to pat you on the back and let you win in your own way.
Honestly 90% of the bitching boils down to people are jealous other people are playing when they are not. I loved your xcom2 videos and other ones I have seen so please have fun with the game and share your experience.