Devs, can we get a streamer who knows BT mechanics?

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Geddon

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I'm not expecting much of this, honestly. Most likely will end up with a silent middle finger but oh well, have to ask anyway. Let's start with a preface.

Devs, can we get a streamer who knows the game? Not the Battletech universe (tho it would be a bonus) but the Battletech tactic game. I understand the first choices you made with Cohh and Bombadil. Imho, Cohh was more of a showman and Bombadil knew a lot about the BT setting but not the gameplay features. Sort of like balance between pure fun and info, so the auditory could pick their favorite.

To me, the fresh streamers are somewhere in-between these two. Problem is - they start with around 0 knowledge of the game mechanics and learn (or not so much) as they progress through the mission. Just as the first ones. While it's not bad by itself, I would like to see a more advanced approach with someone who played the beta. Am I too ballsy to assume that I'm not alone in this?

Well, I may want whatever but how this concerns devs/publishers? BT's lacking tutorial is the main reason. So far, I didn't see any use of more advanced tactics like defense posture. Tactics aside, often streamers don't know/want to learn mechanics behind their armament and skills. They try to pick ideas from the chat and learn from beta testers. And this is counter-productive if some players will try to search for the info on the release date.

Which brings us to a simple question - why don't you get a beta-backer streamer in the mix to provide in-depth info about the game? This step will turn the learning scheme the other way around. Players would learn from streamers directly, not from chat/youtube comments.

Why could this be a good thing for devs/publishers? Let me draw an analogy with Crusader Kings 2. I'm not a big fan of global strategies but it was free and I decided to give it a go. Well, the built-in tutorial made it almost unplayable without looking for more info on youtube. There, I found a channel and sat down for a dozen of tutorial videos. After this, I could at least start playing CK2. Going through comment section for info instead of just watching the vids would be much harder and tedious task.

Did I manage to pass the idea across? Hope so. Would be great if you considered it. Well, you'll probably have a list of potential candidates but I want to ask for a specific guy. Anaro Sunfire. Why? He has a great deal of experience in pvp and overall tactics/mechanics part of BT and a huge pack of betav2 videos. This guy tries to talk about what's going on the field in his voice commentary like mistakes, advantages, disadvantages, etc. A great source for learning.

In fact, after watching half of his BT collection, I emailed him about asking devs for a copy. He answered that he already contacted devs about this and hopes for the best. Well, why not? His channel size is not that big but come on, an announcement and topic here -> subscribers will skyrocket. Like it was with SideStrafer. And providing a different view of the gameplay elements will be beneficial for the auditory.
 

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I don't think he has a large subscriber base yet, but yes, I agree with the suggestion. I watched all of his beta backer videos on YouTube and it was really enjoyable. Man knows his stuff.
 

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Pill From NGNGtv is so far the smartest streamer in my opinion

Yeeee.... no.

He literally threw Decker away for absolute zero gain. That is among worst plays I have seen from these streamers.

I think Bombadill is best from pure knowledge and tactical point of view even if slow gameplay tempo. Cohh is best learner streamer, meaning his personal ability to learn and adapt as he goes.
 

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Yeeee.... no.

He literally threw Decker away for absolute zero gain. That is among worst plays I have seen from these streamers.

I think Bombadill is best from pure knowledge and tactical point of view even if slow gameplay tempo. Cohh is best learner streamer, meaning his personal ability to learn and adapt as he goes.
well would give that reward to ChristopherOdd
 

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i've watched every stream video of people playing this game. so far, none of them seem to know the mechanics of this game very well. the NGNG guys know alot about battletech but havent picked up on most of the combat mechanics of this game. its just way different from the table top. Cohh is very entertaining but stopped streaming battletech while he works on other projects. Sidestrafe is probably the worst one to watch, as i've mention in other threads. but he plays more then anyone else, just wish he knew what he was doing. but watching him stream shows that ANYONE and i do mean ANYONE can succeed at this game. which tells me, it is probably way too easy.
 

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i've watched every stream video of people playing this game. so far, none of them seem to know the mechanics of this game very well. the NGNG guys know alot about battletech but havent picked up on most of the combat mechanics of this game. its just way different from the table top. Cohh is very entertaining but stopped streaming battletech while he works on other projects. Sidestrafe is probably the worst one to watch, as i've mention in other threads. but he plays more then anyone else, just wish he knew what he was doing. but watching him stream shows that ANYONE and i do mean ANYONE can succeed at this game. which tells me, it is probably way too easy.

Did you see burkeblack's stream, Some can fail at the game lol
https://imgur.com/a/yeeWD
On a side note he did break the embargo and went into skirmish mode at the end(he wanted to feel though in assaults lol) which got us some more info about hardpoints
 

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Did you see burkeblack's stream, Some can fail at the game lol
https://imgur.com/a/yeeWD
On a side note he did break the embargo and went into skirmish mode at the end(he wanted to feel though in assaults lol) which got us some more info about hardpoints

yes i saw it. but he could succeed as well. he just has no idea what battletech is. he'll have to start over again and i'm sure he'd be fine.

for what its worth, i watched only parts of his stream and at the end of it he was fine.
 

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Been watching Cohh, and while some of his choices are cringeworthy from a grognard standard it has been educational. Things such as how many mistakes you can make and still remain solvent. And that while the mechlab plainly shows four crit spaces in the center torso 'because you can't do that in BT' would have kept some players from putting more things than 'we know' fit there. His Centurion CT mounted PPC? Or when he tried out having two LLs in the CT? Serious zombie mechage.
 

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Been watching Cohh, and while some of his choices are cringeworthy from a grognard standard it has been educational. Things such as how many mistakes you can make and still remain solvent. And that while the mechlab plainly shows four crit spaces in the center torso 'because you can't do that in BT' would have kept some players from putting more things than 'we know' fit there. His Centurion CT mounted PPC? Or when he tried out having two LLs in the CT? Serious zombie mechage.
The expansion of CT critical slots was noted early on, but other predictions modifying it came true as well: gyros (and who knows what else) MUST be installed into the CT. One of the streamers even had to change his upgrade plans when he saw that a 3-slot gyro wouldn't allow his CN9-A to run with 2 MLs. He switched the gyro to a SHD instead.
 

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The thing about the influencers who are streaming is they're meant to market the game to a wider audience. I get people want to see someone play who already knows how to play well from the start but that's not a goal for the pre-release streams. That being said, today's PDX stream had a PDX QA person playing quite well. The unfortunate part is that is only going to be an hour each week.

Would be cool if there's a big influencer who backed and played the beta but I don't know if there is any big enough yet.