After reading everything said about Canik, I still would like to ask one thing. If I recall correctly, Canik is the only province in anatolia without a releasable beylik . Could that tag be added?
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Also, Holy Roman Empire. There's a theme here - really, Byzantium is the odd man out. And Russia, I guess.
i have never and will never play as the ottomans! My dream of making byzantium great again will not be destroyed, even with all of them ottoman buffs! The purple phoenix will rise again!
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Yeah I would love to see these broken up a bit more.
I never see the ottomans do this conquest spree everyone seems to mention, in most of my wars as soon as they get into one war a dozen powers pounce on them and tear them apart.
Asustria got plenty buffed with the hungary patch, do they ever not get the union over hungary these days?
Honestly kinda disapoined by the lack of Italian/ Crusader enclaves on the Anatolian coast. I thought that Cyprus, The Knights, Genoa, and Venice all historically had some.
Read the thread carefully. Asked and answered (twice, actually).
I didn't express correctly. I wasn't asking for an independent tag in 1444, I was asking for a Canik tag similar to others already existing like Eretna or Mentese.
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The Knights had Bodrum, which before the Turkish conquest was a fairly major/strategic fort in the area, around Halikarnassos. It'd be a good thing to have it represented there, and maybe give the Ottomans more of a reason to strike at the Knights.
Cheers for the DD Trin Tragula and nice work on the extra detail to the Caucasus and Anatolia . New tags and details sound very interesting, with lots of enjoyable-sounding game options to roll with . Reuniting Georgia is my early favourite.
. New tags and details sound very interesting, with lots of enjoyable-sounding game options to roll with . Reuniting Georgia is my early favourite.
It'd ideally have to be bigger than or equal to Rhodes itself, but it'd definitely be nice.
Yes. The Eagle of Ṣalāḥ al-Dīn shall yet again fly over Egypt in vengeance against the traitorous Mamluks.
Perhaps you can split Canik in two and give the western half to Candar? Or, maybe you can expand Candar's Sinop province at the expense of Ottomans' Canik province and give Sinop a subsequent development boost? This would represent the independence of the one beylik from the Ottomans without having to give the whole Canik province independence, and could help buff Candar a bit so maybe they can make for a more attractive ally (and therefore possibly survive longer).
The biggest complaint of the Turks is:
The combined high unit pips of anatolian unit types, the Janissary buff, and the early discipline in NIs leading to an unstoppable Ottoman deathball that just gets bigger and bigger as time goes on. The force limit buff meant to represent the wide Ottoman army is instead used to just make a bigger Ottoman deathball.
This effects both SP and MP and is a serious issue in the game right now.
In MP the typical gameplay is for EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY bordering the Ottomans AND Austria to dogpile them day 1 and hope to knock them out of the game. They can RNG the Janissary buff early though, and combined with the 2.5% discipline event can get a disturbing 12.5% discipline over their opponents, combined with a 6 mil ruler ALWAYS get the mil techs first.
The combined high unit pips of anatolian unit types, the Janissary buff, and the early discipline in NIs leading to an unstoppable Ottoman deathball that just gets bigger and bigger as time goes on. The force limit buff meant to represent the wide Ottoman army is instead used to just make a bigger Ottoman deathball.
This effects both SP and MP and is a serious issue in the game right now.
In MP the typical gameplay is for EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY bordering the Ottomans AND Austria to dogpile them day 1 and hope to knock them out of the game. They can RNG the Janissary buff early though, and combined with the 2.5% discipline event can get a disturbing 12.5% discipline over their opponents, combined with a 6 mil ruler ALWAYS get the mil techs first.
Please make sure to make Turkish it's own culture group instead of clubbing it with Levantines and Arabs.
I tried several times, with no luck!
one thing that seems to be absent in game, is that in fact Turks were foreigners in this part of world before 1100 or something (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatolia). they were nomadic people belonging to central Asia that with Mongol attacks and Seljukies conquests got there and started to change the culture and language of people in the process of Turkification (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkification).
so some people there may still have the desire to revert this changes, and bring their Byzantine identity back. that may be reflected in form of Byzantine have claim (core claim) on anatoly, or revolutions or something.....
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