Does someone using gunboats on you give _you_ a CB vs them? I can't see myself being able to use that much but it would make sense (and give the decision a possible drawback for the one using the navy as well)...
Developer Diary #22 – Loans and Debt
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No one ever decalred war on someone because of gunboat diplomacy.
Because only a nation that was militarily far superior to the other would use gunboat diplomacy, so will there have to be a disparity of power in game for it to occur? If the UK defualted would it be possible for France to use gunboat diplomacy because they have a largish fleet, though not nearly as large as the royal navy?
* What is the actual effect of being shelled?
* When your pops emigrate, do their bonds move with them, or stay behind?
* When you grind 2/3rds of your population into dust in WWI, does your remaining 1/3rd get to keep their bonds?
* When your pops emigrate, do their bonds move with them, or stay behind?
* When you grind 2/3rds of your population into dust in WWI, does your remaining 1/3rd get to keep their bonds?
love the interest/loans.
looking at the lovely picture i wonder how much we can influence the sliders in different ways
i would love to be able :
1. to set a percentage on the slider, say rich taxes to 6.66%
2. set a 'fixed' amount, say set poor taxes to 40.000£
is this going to be possible in the finished version?
looking at the lovely picture i wonder how much we can influence the sliders in different ways
i would love to be able :
1. to set a percentage on the slider, say rich taxes to 6.66%
2. set a 'fixed' amount, say set poor taxes to 40.000£
is this going to be possible in the finished version?
Interesting idea, but a couple of questions.
- Maybe this is a dumb question but I think this is the first time I've seen a CB mentioned for Victoria. Vicky 1 just hit you with a prestige penalty based on the difference between state scores. So how do CB's work? Less of a prestige penalty? Are there other CB's?
- Can you embargo or restrict lending to certain states? Or will every state lend to every other in any situation short of war?
- Will the game tell you when you are exhausting your domestic resources and approaching the threshold of international borrowing?
- Is the repayment order based on the size of the navy at the time of lending or at the time of repayment? So could you (involuntarily) make a bunch of loans, then be unable to collect them because a competing state narrowly pulled ahead in naval score?
- Just to clarify -- does a debtor state pay off the first state in full before moving on? Or does it pay a portion to all of its debtors, with the top state being paid off fastest?
- Can you explain the reasoning behind using naval power alone rather than total military score? If Russia's loaned a bunch of money to a small state on its border, the size of land forces matters way more than its naval force. It just seems like putting too much weight on the name "gunboat diplomacy" instead of modeling the abstract idea of using military force to collect debts.
- Maybe this is a dumb question but I think this is the first time I've seen a CB mentioned for Victoria. Vicky 1 just hit you with a prestige penalty based on the difference between state scores. So how do CB's work? Less of a prestige penalty? Are there other CB's?
- Can you embargo or restrict lending to certain states? Or will every state lend to every other in any situation short of war?
- Will the game tell you when you are exhausting your domestic resources and approaching the threshold of international borrowing?
- Is the repayment order based on the size of the navy at the time of lending or at the time of repayment? So could you (involuntarily) make a bunch of loans, then be unable to collect them because a competing state narrowly pulled ahead in naval score?
- Just to clarify -- does a debtor state pay off the first state in full before moving on? Or does it pay a portion to all of its debtors, with the top state being paid off fastest?
- Can you explain the reasoning behind using naval power alone rather than total military score? If Russia's loaned a bunch of money to a small state on its border, the size of land forces matters way more than its naval force. It just seems like putting too much weight on the name "gunboat diplomacy" instead of modeling the abstract idea of using military force to collect debts.
Only the loaner's tech I suppose, not the creditor's tech?
And what about revolters? For example we have USCA with a lot of debts which then is broken up into smaller countries. Will El Salvador as the rest of the USCA bear the burden of all the debts, or is there some way (via events?) that the burden is shared?
I particularly like the way there's a (basically) finite money supply.
CB's were added to EU3 in the Heir to the Throne expansion. Essentially, when certain criteria are filled, a nation gets a causus belli against them, which may have a time limit (for some CB's) or be permanent as long as the criteria are met. Each CB will modify the amount of badboy/prestige given for certain peace resolutions, and also may modify the cost of some peace resolutions. For example, if you declare war using a Holy War CB in EU3, the BB cost for taking provinces is 1/4th (so 1 BB/province instead of 4), and the cost is reduced as well. A Liberation CB (from the Bill of Rights idea) will instead reduce the cost for forcing your target to release vassals or nations.
I would guess that it's per month (since you probably pay interest monthly). Thus, once people start taking loans from your national bank, don't lose your fleet
My guess is that it pays as much the monthly interest payment as it can (to the limit of what it owes), and then if it doesn't have enough, that's when it goes in order of fleetsize.
I think because generally, these issues resolved themselves with gunboat diplomacy rather than infantry diplomacy.
Joke request: Can we have Zeppelin Diplomacy in the 1920's?
Gunboats forc e aset repayment form you, capped by the fleet size.
You can't take the money with you. So the remainder of the POPs split the interest and repayments.
The creditors tech sets the interest
El Salvador will be debt free. Gutamala, successor to the USCA gets to keep the debt (sucks to be them).
Please I am not scared by a little debt! As Dictator of Guatemala, I'll just confiscate the wealth of the nearest minorities - probably the Mennonites :rofl:
Than off I go to Switzerland before the Americans and Filibusters come for my head!
Than off I go to Switzerland before the Americans and Filibusters come for my head!
The CBs also influence the peace option. If you decalre war to humilate someone then that is your peace option. However high jingoism can allow extension of the war goals.
You don't decide who your POPs buy bonds off. The national bank is an abstraction to hold the financial wealth of your country a single place. For both gameplay and information purposes.
repayment order is decided at the time of repayment, going to need to keep that navy strong
You pay off the full ammount to the strongest naval power first
Mainly to give you a good reason to maintain a large modern fleet. It is my considered opinion that paradox games tend to underrate naval power, so this mechanic is there to make naval power a more important part of you country decision making process instead of something you do when you have nothing else to do.
In the image, how come there's no Healthcare under the Social Spending slider?
I don't recall if Safety Standards are supposed to be part of Social Spending... but if so how come no that either?
I don't recall if Safety Standards are supposed to be part of Social Spending... but if so how come no that either?
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Can we amortize the loans?
I want to loan people money and still have them owe 90% of the principle if they default 1/3rd of the way along the repayment schedule.
I want to loan people money and still have them owe 90% of the principle if they default 1/3rd of the way along the repayment schedule.
Well ok fair enough, but I still think Prestige would be a better measure, Prestige being a combination of a number of factors including military power, which is itself influenced considerably by naval power.
So... will it be possible to mod this? Or will debt-priority need to be hard-coded to being based on Naval Power due to all the other factors that would be based on this decision by release?
Heath care is paid to Bureaucrats and so would be costed through the administration slider
Safety standards increase the cost of factory maintanence