Great patch!
Now the only thing we need are Rogue Servitors with Trade, Comercial Pacts and Ecumenopolises.
Now the only thing we need are Rogue Servitors with Trade, Comercial Pacts and Ecumenopolises.
[Dev Team] Stellaris 2.2.6 Released (checksum 8645)
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I don't know if this is a common or at least known issue, but in the earlygame of my current xenophobe/materialist, the automatic job assignment seems out of whack. I'm constructing non-Droid robots (so they can only work farms and mines) and I have a conquered species in chattel slavery. Now, the slaves are prioritizing minerals and food, which is fine - but every time a robot pop is constructed, that pop remains unemployed because the slaves won't change jobs to Technician or Clerk, unless I manually kick them out by blocking and restoring the Miner/Farmer job.
This honestly doesn't seem like something that should happen. I'm pretty sure that new pops can kick old ones out of their jobs (source: hundreds of unemployed Specialists over the course of my 2.2 campaigns), so I'm curious if others have similar issues and if there's other solutions than to put the filthy xenos on Residence.
This honestly doesn't seem like something that should happen. I'm pretty sure that new pops can kick old ones out of their jobs (source: hundreds of unemployed Specialists over the course of my 2.2 campaigns), so I'm curious if others have similar issues and if there's other solutions than to put the filthy xenos on Residence.
I'm simply comparing Hiveminds to the Xenophile Synthethic Ascension Empire. 20-30 pop growth, 60% specialist output on Ecumenopoleis, 40% on non-Ecumenopoleis. Hiveminds cannot compete once you get to that point. I won't deny Devouring Swarm is very good, but Hiveminds lacks options in terms of civic choices and lategame efficiency.
It took us some time to find out what the strongest playstyle is. Maybe Xenophile Synth Ascension won't be the end-all be all, but their growth is unrivaled, their specialist output is the best possible in the game so I doubt we will create a stronger builds without those elements. Hiveminds are easier to manage but they are not the strongest. As you can read from the patchnotes, they have got a lot of nerfs since 2.2 But with strong buffs to Synthethic Ascencions and everyone figuring out how easy it is to surpass Hiveminds in growth, they deserve some attention.
Updated to latest release and the nerf (50% to 10% bonus for Mining Stations) to Machine Empire's wasn't as bad as I thought. That might be because I'd given myself a buffer before the update was release - it is so worth reading what's going on in the beta.
A lot of good fixes and I do like the Interface improvements, especially the different ways to manage jobs via favorites or deprioritization, and the Restore Jobs button is a great addition.
However an issue, where the Preemptive Strike Situation Log event timed out for my Machine Empire is still occurring in the 2.2.6 release so I've added my report to the beta report of the issue thread here:
- https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...terranean-civilization.1158863/#post-25280207
Others had mentioned it in a release thread back in 2.2.3 (but they didn't bug report it!):
- https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...s-checksum-1960.1140824/page-31#post-25074224
Now if we could only assign job strata to a particular species or sub-species (too many threads and variations on that theme on that to quote just one)
A lot of good fixes and I do like the Interface improvements, especially the different ways to manage jobs via favorites or deprioritization, and the Restore Jobs button is a great addition.
However an issue, where the Preemptive Strike Situation Log event timed out for my Machine Empire is still occurring in the 2.2.6 release so I've added my report to the beta report of the issue thread here:
- https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...terranean-civilization.1158863/#post-25280207
Others had mentioned it in a release thread back in 2.2.3 (but they didn't bug report it!):
- https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...s-checksum-1960.1140824/page-31#post-25074224
Now if we could only assign job strata to a particular species or sub-species (too many threads and variations on that theme on that to quote just one)
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I thought it was a bug too, until I did some investigation.
Apparently it is intended that all Planetary Features are removed when terraforming to either a Ecumenopolis, Machine or Hive Worlds.
What isn't removed is some of the Planetary Modifiers (See: https://stellaris.paradoxwikis.com/Celestial_body) which depends too on the type of world you're terrforming into.
So if you do like a Planetary Feature, don't plan to terraform to a Ecumenopolis, Machine or Hive World
Synths can get 30% specialist output: 20% from synths + 5% from Synth Ruler +5% efficient processors trait. Meritocracy civic adds 10% specialist output (available to standart empires). Ecumenopoleis grant flat 20% ressource output bonus.
I was wondering why people are disagreeing with me when im simply stating facts. Normal empires produce more, grow faster (20-30 growth per month easily thanks to 12 from synths and the rest from organics+immigration) and thanks to ecumenopoleis need a lot less building slots for strategic ressources.
Please reconsider your "respectfully disagree button" or atleast put up some facts of your own. I am simply advocating for better balance overall and thus comparing everything to the best possible build.
As far as I've seen, the synth trait no longer exists. Therefore you have this:
Regular Synthetically-Ascended Empires:
+10% resources from robot jobs = Synthetic Evolution Ascension Perk
+5% resources from robot jobs = Synthetic Ruler
+5% resources from jobs = Synthetic Thought Patterns
+5% resources from robot jobs = efficient processors species trait
+10% resources from Specialist jobs = Meritocracy civic
= +35% total resources from Specialist Jobs
Compare this to Gestalt Empires with Bio Ascension:
+20% resources from specialist jobs = Manufacturing Focus Policy (available at game start for Gestalt empires only)
+5% resources from jobs = Collective Production Methods (or Resource Processing Algorithms) technology
+5% resources from all jobs = Robust advanced perk
= +30% total resources from Specialist Jobs
As you can see from the above, both types of empires can achieve a very similar bonus to Specialist Job output except Gestalts (and in particular hive-minds) don't even need to spend a civic point. Therefore it can be considered a wash or perhaps even a slight advantage to Gestalts since these empires don't need to invest anything limited to enjoy all of the benefits.
This is especially true if you consider that Gestalts don't have to worry about consumer goods buildings and can dedicate all the building slots on the planet to forges, research complexes, etc.
Now let us compare planet types:
+20% resource output bonus from jobs = Ecumenopolis, anyone can colonize
Compared to:
+10% resource output bonus from jobs = Machine/hive worlds, only machines/hive minds can colonize
While it is true that Gestalt Empires cannot create a Ecuomenopolis of their own, nothing prevents them from taking over one that is already created (and thus allowing them to enjoy the same benefits). This is not true of machine/hive worlds that cannot be exploited by organic empires in any way.
Ultimately, you're greatly exaggerating the "bonus" that Synthetically-ascended empires enjoy compared to Gestalts and trying to hide the significant bonuses Gestalts enjoy (and how early they are available to the player). Gestalts don't need any buffs.
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to chime in on the specialist. egalitarians also gives a bonus to specialist output but i forget how much.
Yeah,
Egalitarian gives 25% faction influence gain, +5% specialist output.
Fan Egalitarian gives 50% faction influence gain, +10% specialist output
You have to live with a bunch of restrictions on resettlement and stuff though and as such it's a bit of a frustrating playstyle, in my opinion.
The AI is still pretty maniacal about Crime. I'm currently playing as a Criminal Syndicate, and two out of three of my neighbors have so far rushed two precinct houses as soon as possible to block out my contributions to crime.
Actually, darkrenown mentioned in the 2.2.5/2.2.6 beta change log thread that it isn't intentional that machine worlds should lose these features.
Hello.I`m now making a mode about pops for Stellaris.
May I ask when we will gain the modifier "planet_pop_growth_add"(just "planet_pop_assembly_add" for robot pop) & "empire_size_add"?
And when will "has_colony_progress >0.1" work well? (it terribly only checks <int> now,)
THX
May I ask when we will gain the modifier "planet_pop_growth_add"(just "planet_pop_assembly_add" for robot pop) & "empire_size_add"?
And when will "has_colony_progress >0.1" work well? (it terribly only checks <int> now,
)THX
If you already had the situation log before updating to 2.2.6, I'm afraid the fix isn't retroactive, but it should work for new games.
Just wanted to update that now no pops are being assimilated in my game anymore at all.
I guess I'm abandoning this game.
I'm having the same problem, updated from the beta and now no pops will assimilate. Running event action.65 in the console will force assimilation but nothing else will.
This seems like a really game-breaking bug. Are we likely to see an emergency 2.2.7 patch to fix this? I don't want to sound negative, but having ONE version without completely game-breaking bug on a stable branch would really help a lot.