[Dev Team] 2.0.2 Beta Patch updated [6.3.2018][checksum 5781]

[Zer0k]

This looks too weak for ascension slot, should be at least +10

Or just rolled into the other starbase perk.

 

[Uncle_Joe]

So as someone who didn't play the game out too late most times, I have to ask....

Have the End Game Crisis mechanics been adjusted to account for the new mechanics in 2.0+.....?

I was playing my first 2.0 game and honestly the first game where I played it out late enough to see the End Game Crisis since the beginning. And the Swarm shows up (spawning on my doorstep). They have about 8-10 fleets of about 75k-80k strength. I was one of the stronger powers in the game (on one higher in 'power' and only a few Equivalent). My average fleet strength is about 30k, divided among 4 fleets covering my empire.

if I could completely concentrate my fleet, I might have a chance against 1 or 2 individual swarm fleets. But given travel times in 2.0, there is no realistic way I can concentrate my fleet enough to fight the swarm before I lost about 1/4 of my empire. And it seems like the lower NC and the increased upkeep of ships and outposts is greatly limiting the fleets I can muster. But the swarm doesn't seem to be any smaller? The AIs empires have been sending in fleets as well but they are all like mine...in the 30k realm and being annihilated to little gain.

So at this point, I'm just folding on that game. Which is a shame because I had over 20 hours of back and forth fun between me and my vassals and a nearby empire and his. For my next game, I'm just going to turn the Crisis off but I was just curious if others have had a similar difficulty in handling them under the new mechanics.

 

[Aquilegia]

Domination tradition fix which would be better: give us extra starbase capacity based on their territory and population. Now it's just worthless. Add in some other effects too apart from the minor vassal benefits.

 

[Serenity84]

Have the End Game Crisis mechanics been adjusted to account for the new mechanics in 2.0+.....?

There is a slider for crisis strength. You don't have to turn them off

 

[xxaxx]

So as someone who didn't play the game out too late most times, I have to ask....

Have the End Game Crisis mechanics been adjusted to account for the new mechanics in 2.0+.....?

I was playing my first 2.0 game and honestly the first game where I played it out late enough to see the End Game Crisis since the beginning. And the Swarm shows up (spawning on my doorstep). They have about 8-10 fleets of about 75k-80k strength. I was one of the stronger powers in the game (on one higher in 'power' and only a few Equivalent). My average fleet strength is about 30k, divided among 4 fleets covering my empire.

if I could completely concentrate my fleet, I might have a chance against 1 or 2 individual swarm fleets. But given travel times in 2.0, there is no realistic way I can concentrate my fleet enough to fight the swarm before I lost about 1/4 of my empire. And it seems like the lower NC and the increased upkeep of ships and outposts is greatly limiting the fleets I can muster. But the swarm doesn't seem to be any smaller? The AIs empires have been sending in fleets as well but they are all like mine...in the 30k realm and being annihilated to little gain.

So at this point, I'm just folding on that game. Which is a shame because I had over 20 hours of back and forth fun between me and my vassals and a nearby empire and his. For my next game, I'm just going to turn the Crisis off but I was just curious if others have had a similar difficulty in handling them under the new mechanics.

Nope.

Scourge spawned with fleets around 120k, i had 2 fleets with 80k, worked on my economy and naval capacity, got to like 3 fleets with 100k each. Properly kited out they ate their fleets for lunch.
Still it took a while to kill them all, because the AI didn't help really much.

 

[Larknok1]

Executive Vigor was top tier, so I'm not too sad to see it nerfed. Cutting it in half was a bit harsh, though. 75% seems like the right place for it.

 

[Me_]

View attachment 342666

I wonder what are the specifics. Does the event replace a civic and changes the ethoses?

 

[Aquilegia]

On the starbase thing, it certainly does look underwhelming, but i'm guessing its balanced around the naval cap. If you go all logistics, thats what? 36 cap per base? x4 would put you at 144 extra cap. Considering they have a perk for only 80 cap (and 20 fleet), thats probably why

Personally I think the extra-fleet cap is underwhelming too.. even for taller games.

 

[Zyrusticae]

Can people please stop whining about their pet issues that aren't even mentioned in the patch notes? There are plenty of other threads here for that

I think we can at least agree that something like all +range bonuses being nonfunctional is a high-priority issue and that every patch (remember, this has been an issue for a LONG time now) that comes out without a fix raises serious questions about the dev team's priorities.

 

[Held der Arbeit]

* Fixed species being able to spawn with Serviles trait

Aw, too bad. I thought that was an intentional easter egg about serviles killing their masters at some point

 

[Fensterbank]

* Added a 20 year cooldown before the AI can hire a Marauder raid against the same target again

Oh yes thanks!

I currently play my first game as an egalitarian pacifist and just wanted to chill and make federations in a small empire.
Unfortunateley I'm sorrounded by two militaristic authoritarian which had nothing better to do than send me the Marauders every two years…


This change should make my life a little bit easier.

 

[Shimohi]

I wonder what are the specifics. Does the event replace a civic and changes the ethoses?

Thats the event code:

Spoiler

# Chosen One becomes ruler
country_event = {
   id = utopia.3400
   title = "utopia.3400.name"
   desc = "utopia.3400.desc"
   picture = GFX_evt_psionics
   show_sound = event_mystic_reveal
  
   trigger = {
       is_country_type = default
       NOT = { has_country_flag = chosen_one_ruler_event }
       OR = {
           has_authority = auth_democratic
           has_authority = auth_oligarchic
           has_authority = auth_dictatorial
       }
       any_owned_leader = {
           OR = {
               has_trait = leader_trait_admiral_chosen
               has_trait = leader_trait_general_chosen
               has_trait = leader_trait_governor_chosen
               has_trait = leader_trait_scientist_chosen
               has_trait = leader_trait_ruler_chosen
           }
       }
   }

   mean_time_to_happen = {
       months = 120
   }
  
   immediate = {
       set_country_flag = chosen_one_ruler_event
       random_owned_leader = {
           limit = {
               OR = {
                   has_trait = leader_trait_admiral_chosen
                   has_trait = leader_trait_general_chosen
                   has_trait = leader_trait_governor_chosen
                   has_trait = leader_trait_scientist_chosen
                   has_trait = leader_trait_ruler_chosen
               }
           }
           save_event_target_as = chosen_one
           species = { save_event_target_as = chosen_one_species }
       }
   }
  
   option = {
       name = "utopia.3400.a"
       ai_chance = {
           factor = 100
           modifier = {
               factor = 40
               has_ethic = ethic_egalitarian
           }
               modifier = {
               factor = 80
               has_ethic = ethic_fanatic_egalitarian
           }
       }
       custom_tooltip = reject_god_emperor
   }
   option = {
       name = "utopia.3400.b"
       ai_chance = {
           factor = 150
           modifier = {
               factor = 40
               has_ethic = ethic_authoritarian
           }
               modifier = {
               factor = 80
               has_ethic = ethic_fanatic_authoritarian
           }
       }
       if = {
           limit = {
               NOR = {
                   has_ethic = ethic_fanatic_egalitarian
                   has_ethic = ethic_egalitarian
               }
           }
           shift_ethic = "ethic_authoritarian"
       }
       if = {
           limit = { has_ethic = ethic_fanatic_egalitarian }
           country_remove_ethic = ethic_fanatic_egalitarian
           country_add_ethic = ethic_fanatic_authoritarian
       }
       if = {
           limit = { has_ethic = ethic_egalitarian }
           country_remove_ethic = ethic_egalitarian
           country_add_ethic = ethic_authoritarian
       }
       change_government = {
           authority = auth_imperial
           civics = {
               civic = civic_imperial_cult
               civic = civic_aristocratic_elite
               civic = civic_philosopher_king
           }
       }
       set_leader = event_target:chosen_one
       hidden_effect = {
           every_country = {
               limit = {
                   is_ai = no
                   NOT = { is_same_value = root }
                   has_communications = root
               }
               country_event = { id = utopia.3401 days = 4 }
           }
           country_event = { id = utopia.3402 days = 5 }
       }
   }
}

# Empire accepts Chosen One as ruler
country_event = {
   id = utopia.3401
   title = "utopia.3401.name"
   desc = "utopia.3401.desc"
   picture = GFX_evt_psionics
   show_sound = event_mystic_reveal
  
   is_triggered_only = yes
  
   option = {
       name = "utopia.3401.a"
       trigger = {
           any_relation = {
               AND = {
                   is_country_type = shroud
                   has_communications = root
               }
           }
       }
   }
   option = {
       name = "utopia.3401.b"
       trigger = {
           OR = {
               has_ethic = ethic_fanatic_materialist
               has_ethic = ethic_materialist
           }
       }
   }
   option = {
       name = "utopia.3401.c"
       trigger = {
           NOR = {
               has_ethic = ethic_fanatic_materialist
               has_ethic = ethic_materialist
               any_relation = {
                   AND = {
                       is_country_type = shroud
                       has_communications = root
                   }
               }
           }
       }
   }
}

# Change empire name
country_event = {
   id = utopia.3402
   hide_window = yes
  
   is_triggered_only = yes
  
   immediate = {
       set_name = random
   }
}

 

[Magil]

I think we can at least agree that something like all +range bonuses being nonfunctional is a high-priority issue and that every patch (remember, this has been an issue for a LONG time now) that comes out without a fix raises serious questions about the dev team's priorities.

I find it troubling that 2.0 added some new features which use the +range modifier even though it doesn't work. This one kinda does deserve to be shouted from the mountaintops.

 

[Larknok1]

The biggest issue I have with the Domination change is that there's almost no reason to get Vassals over Tributes now. Could Fleet Levies give double Naval Cap from Vassals over Tributes?

 

[James Fire]

The biggest issue I have with the Domination change is that there's almost no reason to get Vassals over Tributes now. Could Fleet Levies give double Naval Cap from Vassals over Tributes?

It also give protectorates a bit of use beyond the 0.25 influence.

 

[CheesySnake]

* Grasp the Void ascension perk has been added to the game. It increases starbase capacity by +4
This looks too weak for ascension slot, should be at least +10

I concur. A +4 increase would have made a bit more sense when the max starbase cap was 50 (an 8% bonus does still seem a little small for an ascension slot. Buffing "Grasp the Void" to +10 starbases would give a nice round 10% increase to the hard cap.

 

[Me_]

Thats the event code:

Spoiler

# Chosen One becomes ruler
country_event = {
   id = utopia.3400
   title = "utopia.3400.name"
   desc = "utopia.3400.desc"
   picture = GFX_evt_psionics
   show_sound = event_mystic_reveal
 
   trigger = {
       is_country_type = default
       NOT = { has_country_flag = chosen_one_ruler_event }
       OR = {
           has_authority = auth_democratic
           has_authority = auth_oligarchic
           has_authority = auth_dictatorial
       }
       any_owned_leader = {
           OR = {
               has_trait = leader_trait_admiral_chosen
               has_trait = leader_trait_general_chosen
               has_trait = leader_trait_governor_chosen
               has_trait = leader_trait_scientist_chosen
               has_trait = leader_trait_ruler_chosen
           }
       }
   }

   mean_time_to_happen = {
       months = 120
   }
 
   immediate = {
       set_country_flag = chosen_one_ruler_event
       random_owned_leader = {
           limit = {
               OR = {
                   has_trait = leader_trait_admiral_chosen
                   has_trait = leader_trait_general_chosen
                   has_trait = leader_trait_governor_chosen
                   has_trait = leader_trait_scientist_chosen
                   has_trait = leader_trait_ruler_chosen
               }
           }
           save_event_target_as = chosen_one
           species = { save_event_target_as = chosen_one_species }
       }
   }
 
   option = {
       name = "utopia.3400.a"
       ai_chance = {
           factor = 100
           modifier = {
               factor = 40
               has_ethic = ethic_egalitarian
           }
               modifier = {
               factor = 80
               has_ethic = ethic_fanatic_egalitarian
           }
       }
       custom_tooltip = reject_god_emperor
   }
   option = {
       name = "utopia.3400.b"
       ai_chance = {
           factor = 150
           modifier = {
               factor = 40
               has_ethic = ethic_authoritarian
           }
               modifier = {
               factor = 80
               has_ethic = ethic_fanatic_authoritarian
           }
       }
       if = {
           limit = {
               NOR = {
                   has_ethic = ethic_fanatic_egalitarian
                   has_ethic = ethic_egalitarian
               }
           }
           shift_ethic = "ethic_authoritarian"
       }
       if = {
           limit = { has_ethic = ethic_fanatic_egalitarian }
           country_remove_ethic = ethic_fanatic_egalitarian
           country_add_ethic = ethic_fanatic_authoritarian
       }
       if = {
           limit = { has_ethic = ethic_egalitarian }
           country_remove_ethic = ethic_egalitarian
           country_add_ethic = ethic_authoritarian
       }
       change_government = {
           authority = auth_imperial
           civics = {
               civic = civic_imperial_cult
               civic = civic_aristocratic_elite
               civic = civic_philosopher_king
           }
       }
       set_leader = event_target:chosen_one
       hidden_effect = {
           every_country = {
               limit = {
                   is_ai = no
                   NOT = { is_same_value = root }
                   has_communications = root
               }
               country_event = { id = utopia.3401 days = 4 }
           }
           country_event = { id = utopia.3402 days = 5 }
       }
   }
}

# Empire accepts Chosen One as ruler
country_event = {
   id = utopia.3401
   title = "utopia.3401.name"
   desc = "utopia.3401.desc"
   picture = GFX_evt_psionics
   show_sound = event_mystic_reveal
 
   is_triggered_only = yes
 
   option = {
       name = "utopia.3401.a"
       trigger = {
           any_relation = {
               AND = {
                   is_country_type = shroud
                   has_communications = root
               }
           }
       }
   }
   option = {
       name = "utopia.3401.b"
       trigger = {
           OR = {
               has_ethic = ethic_fanatic_materialist
               has_ethic = ethic_materialist
           }
       }
   }
   option = {
       name = "utopia.3401.c"
       trigger = {
           NOR = {
               has_ethic = ethic_fanatic_materialist
               has_ethic = ethic_materialist
               any_relation = {
                   AND = {
                       is_country_type = shroud
                       has_communications = root
                   }
               }
           }
       }
   }
}

# Change empire name
country_event = {
   id = utopia.3402
   hide_window = yes
 
   is_triggered_only = yes
 
   immediate = {
       set_name = random
   }
}

So now we have a way to get out of fixed civics.

 

[Taritu]

I know it's tiresome to bring it up, but many feel that the old war exhaustion just needed some tweaking, and was preferable to the beta one. I hope you are willing to reconsider. (I won't make the arguments here, plenty of threads on that.) Otherwise, looks great.

 

[FailFailWin]

Admirals added to the pool through the 'promising officer given promotion in the field' kind of event do not have the psychic trait even if of the right species and if you have taken the two ascension perks. Haven't tested this with synthetic ascension but presumably the cyborg phase suffers from a similar issue...

 

[tesarro]

Still has the bug that is you build gateways before finding one that has not been repaired. You do not get the event that allows your empire ships to use gateways. In a current game I have built gateways but my empire ships cannot use them just other empires can use them. Also all gateways that were generated at the start of the game have been repaired so I cannot get the event to be able to use them.

Still having problems with issues of not being able to make claims on empires. Not 100% sure it is because they started a colossus project or not as we had not gotten the announcement about colossus the first time this happened. I was able to make claims on the empire one until I went to war with them. Once the war was over I have no longer been able to make claims on that empire.

All of these issues were encountered in multiplayer games.