Dev Diary on AI Fixes?

Pugman · Oct 21, 2014

While I think it was mentioned by Wiz at some point there was work being done on the AI (primarily naval as I understand it), I'm curious to know if the AI bugs related to frozen armies have been fixed. I don't intend to buy any more DLCs until this is confirmed to be fixed. In fact I think it would be nice if all the AI enhancements and fixes were mentioned in the next Dev Diary, if there is one. If not, maybe just a post?

CommunistCookie · Oct 21, 2014

I don't think bug fixes are generally put in DDs. I'm sure it'll be in the changelog though.

Junuxx · Oct 21, 2014

CommunistCookie said:
I don't think bug fixes are generally put in DDs. I'm sure it'll be in the changelog though.

The line between fixes and improvements an be quite blurry though. I would like to learn about any AI changes.

delpiero1234 · Oct 21, 2014

I'd love to se a Dev Diary dedicate to AI fixes/Bug fixes but I also know that that will never happen.. Paradox is too busy announcing new provinces and of course every day multiple national ideas have to be announced - that leaves them with no time to talk about less important things like a working AI

Junuxx · Oct 21, 2014

The NI threads are kinda spammy, yes

Golladan · Oct 21, 2014

Junuxx said:
The line between fixes and improvements an be quite blurry though. I would like to learn about any AI changes.

Patch notes generally have an entire section dedicated to changes and fixes to the AI.

Taciturn Scot · Oct 21, 2014

delpiero1234 said:
I'd love to se a Dev Diary dedicate to AI fixes/Bug fixes but I also know that that will never happen.. Paradox is too busy announcing new provinces and of course every day multiple national ideas have to be announced - that leaves them with no time to talk about less important things like a working AI

The NI threads are kinda spammy, yes

Gosh. There's just no pleasing some folks.

Junuxx · Oct 21, 2014

Don't you think that one thread per day containing the ideas for 4 nations would be better?

"Some folks" would rather not see any critical opinions, it appears.

RobRoy3 · Oct 21, 2014

Junuxx said:
Don't you think that one thread per day containing the ideas for 4 nations would be better.

Better? Of course. For you. For me. But we don't represent the majority, in this case.

Come on. It's marketing. Pure and simple. Nothing wrong with it. They're trying to create some buzz and excitement. Esoteric bug fixes don't generate buzz and excitement. So, no, it won't happen until patch notes are released.

If we behave, though, they might release patch notes a few days early. Unless, of course, they fear we'll get in an uproar about some major change they've neglected to mention.

Taciturn Scot · Oct 21, 2014

Junuxx said:
Don't you think that one thread per day containing the ideas for 4 nations would be better?

"Some folks" would rather not see any critical opinions, it appears.

Critical of problems with the game? No problem. Sometimes, that might actually help the Developers to make the game better depending on how informative and helpful the complaint is expressed. But the posts I quoted are not criticism of the game mechanics. They're just pointless negativity.

So what if the Developers want to make a post every day about new National Ideas? There are players from these countries who will be delighted.

solidprice · Oct 21, 2014

the day i read the 1.8 Patch notes:

CommunistCookie · Oct 21, 2014

Junuxx said:
Don't you think that one thread per day containing the ideas for 4 nations would be better?

"Some folks" would rather not see any critical opinions, it appears.

There's nothing wrong with actual critical opinions, but to actually complain about the devs "spamming" the forum by showcasing free features is ridiculous.

Junuxx · Oct 21, 2014

4 new posts a day, without a stickied list, they are actually hard to find.

As for "Come on. It's marketing. Pure and simple"; I think it's bad marketing. People would see more of the new features if they didn't have to hunt down four different topics every day, some of which might have fallen to the second or third page of the forum.

I also have to admit that I don't find the highly similar national idea sets a particularly exciting new feature. I'm really looking forward to playing with the new map and mechanics, but national ideas for Yaroslavl? That will have virtually no impact on my next 100 campaigns.

But if somehow I'm the only one who thinks that's a little annoying or not so interesting, well then yay, good for everyone else!

Holbenilord · Oct 21, 2014

Pugman said:
While I think it was mentioned by Wiz at some point there was work being done on the AI (primarily naval as I understand it), I'm curious to know if the AI bugs related to frozen armies have been fixed.

Wait for the patchnotes, just as we have done in all other times the AI was altered. Dev diaries are for sexy concepts, and as such could only go over how the AI had been improved in vague detail.

Don't you think that one thread per day containing the ideas for 4 nations would be better?

No, 99% of user-made threads are awful so I am glad to see more dev content.

bbspoon · Oct 21, 2014

AI needs improvements on transporting troops. EU3 AI could do it just fine, so why is EU4 AI so broken when it comes to transportation. England is an extremely useless nation in the hands of AI.