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Hey, HOI4 had a dev diary, what gives?

HOI4 is a game that's under active development. CK2 is a dead game that won't generate much more money for Paradox, so there's no reason for them to spend as much resources on CK2 as HOI4.
 
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HOI4 is a game that's under active development. CK2 is a dead game that won't generate much more money for Paradox, so there's no reason for them to spend as much resources on CK2 as HOI4.

I'm sure they still make enough money with CK2 ;) Otherwise the development would already have been ended.
 
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I'm sure they still make enough money with CK2 ;) Otherwise the development would already have been ended.

It's not a question of "enough money." It's a question of how much money you spend on something versus how much you get out.

CK2 has a far smaller playerbase than EU4 at this point, let alone what they hope to achieve with Stellaris or HOI4. You simply won't sell as many DLCs for CK2 as you would for anything else.
 
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CK2 has a far smaller playerbase than EU4 at this point
CK2 has always had a smaller player base. You clearly don't have much idea of what you are talking about.

Did you even check steam stats? There are still ~3.5k active players an hour, the game didn't even have that in its first year of release.

CK2 is not a dead game, if it were dead there would be far less players playing it and you probably wouldn't have even posted in this thread. Stop the non-sense about CK2 dying and stopping development, there is no indication this is happening.
 
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Did you even check steam stats? There are still ~3.5k active players an hour, the game didn't even have that in its first year of release.
Yeah CK2 is funny. It's not a massive, widely known title or anything. It's mainly spread by word of mouth because of the great many ridiculous adventures people love to tell their friends, and so if anything it grows over time until it simply becomes too outdated. Games aren't released like in the past, though - long streams of DLC over years vastly increases their lifespans and if anything makes it harder to simply release a CK III or something, since that would have to be better and holding more content than years of CK II DLC.
 

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Depends if someone wants to make Vic3 though from what I have read. If there isn't someone with the passion to lead it, then they are obviously better off doing somethings else.

Also Stellaris 2 has to be in the works too right?
 

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To me it looks like the "CK2 team" is actually working on another project (maybe Stellaris) since the progress with CK2 has been so slow.
They could impossibly design new features and implement them while working with another game. You are overestimating the capability of the team: how could they work so fast with CK2 and meanwhile at the same time work with another game?
 

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I dont know, several months and dont fix anything, many achievements are broken. and Paradox only make silence.
Which achievements are broken?
 
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They almost never issue bug fix patches more than a few weeks after a major patch, and bug fix patches are for game breaking bugs (as in, "can not play the game at all", not "can not get a few achievements"); that means nothing. And silence? Holidays coming up, and devs going on vacation during them.
 
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It's too early for CK3. We first need HoI4. And after this it would be time for Vicky 3. After Vicky 3 it's time for CK3. That's the usual circle.
You forgot Rome...
 
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