Deutschland uber Alles... Germany's theme song?

[BlkbrryTheGreat]

Any chance of getting this song in as Deutschland's (Germany's) Theme when its united? If its in im sure that it would but a Germany player in a more... aggressive... mood (if its the original version anyway, not the post WWII version).

 

[Anzu]

Or how about "Feuer Frei" by Rammstein...
No, seriously. It could be good.

"Theme Songs" for other countries:

GB: Rule Britannia (obviously)
Grandduchy of Finland (if playable): Finlandia by Sibelius

 

[Anzu]

Or on second thought, if you want to have a (sort of) historical game, don't. It wasn't adopted as national anthem until 1922. If that's not a problem, go ahead. One thing to consider though is that it is a quartet for strings written by Joseph Hayden in 1799 to the Austrian Emperor. Also called "the Emperorquartet".

Didn't think about that in my last reply. Sorry.

 

[Stingray]

Heck, our national song aint offical as of yet. It just spread and got popular, and thus became a national song

 

[Faeelin]

That song should be in.

It just means that germans should put bavarian, hanoverian, etc. feelings aside and become germans. Or it did originally, anyway.

 

[Stingray]

It did until Hitler

 

[SykoNurse]

found this little explanation somewhere...no Deutschlandlied please!

Historical Background
The "official" name of the German national anthem is "Lied der Deutschen," or simply, the "Deutschlandlied." The song's words were penned by the teacher Heinrich Hoffmann von Fallersleben, who had been a fervent supporter of German unity and republican government, and who, because of his activities on behalf of these causes, was forced to flee to the North Sea island of Heligoland, where the verses were actually written. The music is taken from the String Quartet in C major (the Kaiser-Quartet), Op. 76,3 of Joseph Haydn, composed in 1797. It was officially ignored during most of the Second Reich (1871 to 1918), which had no official anthem as such. The "Deutschlandlied's" real popularity began with World War I, when it was sung on the battlefield by young soldiers from every Gau of the Reich who were thrown together against a common foe. Ironically, the song did not become the official national anthem until declared so by President Ebert of the Weimar Republic in March 1922.

Not surprisingly, during the next European War, the words "über alles" were ruthlessly exploited by Allied propagandists. Banned after 1945 by the victors, the "Deutschlandlied" is again the German national anthem, but only the third stanza is used. The first stanza is absolutely verboten, since it refers to the traditional ethnographic boundaries of Germany ("from the Maas [in Belgium] to the Memel [between the present day Kaliningrad area of Russia and Lithuania], from the Etsch [on the Austro-Italian border] to the Belt [in Denmark]"). Likewise, the propagandistic mistranslation of the words "über alles" has now become accepted "truth", thus precluding their use.

 

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Instrumental would be one thing, but including the original lyrics would, quite apart from grating on some people, possibly give the game legal problems in Germany.

 

[Styrbiorn]

Originally posted by Jason
Instrumental would be one thing, but including the original lyrics would, quite apart from grating on some people, possibly give the game legal problems in Germany.

Doubtful. The song (parts of it) is still the German national anthem, and I don't think the rest is banned

 

[brandnew70x7]

Speaking of which, is Helgioland going to be an island on the map?

 

[SykoNurse]

I even learned it at school (as well as the DDR anthem ). But you don´t sing it, ever. Only the 3rd verse.

 

[Styrbiorn]

Originally posted by Stingray
Heck, our national song aint offical as of yet. It just spread and got popular, and thus became a national song

No, but it was made in 1844 (it fits very badly though and shouldn't be included IMHO). Kungsången was used and popular, and that and Värmlandssången maybe could fit well.

 

[Syt]

Originally posted by SykoNurse
I even learned it at school (as well as the DDR anthem ). But you don´t sing it, ever. Only the 3rd verse.

The third stanza is the best one, too. The second, while not offensive, is... cheesy.

 

[SykoNurse]

Originally posted by Sytass
The third stanza is the best one, too. The second, while not offensive, is... cheesy.

agreed!

 

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Originally posted by BlkbrryTheGreat
Any chance of getting this song in as Deutschland's (Germany's) Theme when its united? If its in im sure that it would but a Germany player in a more... aggressive... mood (if its the original version anyway, not the post WWII version).

I hope not. It would resemble the Austrian Theme song too much

 

[Syt]

Re: Re: Deutschland uber Alles... Germany's theme song?

Originally posted by Tambourmajor
I hope not. It would resemble the Austrian Theme song too much

Shoo, you, you.....

Then again, the "God save the queen" was very popular in various countries (e.g. Germany - Heil Dir im Siegerkranz), too....

 

[brandnew70x7]

I'll need God Save the Tsar in order to unite the factions of the whites and crush the reds.

 

[Styrbiorn]

Re: Re: Re: Deutschland uber Alles... Germany's theme song?

Originally posted by Sytass
Shoo, you, you.....

Then again, the "God save the queen" was very popular in various countries (e.g. Germany - Heil Dir im Siegerkranz), too....

Half of Europe used that tune with different texts, including Norway, Sweden, Russia (as "God save the Tsar", actually ), Switzerland, Liechtenstein & numerous other German states, as well as the USA.

 

[Txini]

Originally posted by Burris
I'll need God Save the Tsar in order to unite the factions of the whites and crush the reds.

don't worry I have a 1903 recorded God Save the Tsar if the team needs it

 

[brandnew70x7]

The one recorded recently is far better :-/

I hope different factions will arise from the civil war by demography unless they are communist (All communists would unite as they really did) and you'd have to make alliance treaties with them to get them on your side (Including giving independence if they win, etc)