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For the sake of speed, I've had to rely on internet searches of Both Ragnhild and Godred Haraldsson Crovan. At the start of 1066 scenario, he is married to Ragnhild Maria and is duke of WE. IS.
From all I could find, it appears that Ragnhild Maria who married Godred is the same Maria who is said to have died on 25SEP66.
I'm beginning to suspect that the story of Maria dropping dead on the same day (and according to legend, at the same moment) as her father is apocryphal. Also, I originally posted the wrong dates, Stamford bridge was the 25SEP, not 23SEP. Also, some sources say that Maria died on the same day, others say 2 days later.
Now, you might be wondering what makes me suspect that the Ragnhild Maria is the same Maria who allegedly died is this:
The Ragnhild Maria who married Godred gave him three sons, the first of whom was born around 1080. Godred died in 1095 when his youngest son was said to still be a child. Now, if Maria did not die on or about 25SEP66 and grew up and married Godred, she would be the perfect age to start having children around 1080.
Godred himself is misplaced by the game. He is said to have fought with Harald at Stamford and hauled a$$ to the Isle of Mann immediately afterwards with his kinsman who was the ruler there. Then, in 1079, he attacked and took the Isle of Mann with support from men he raised in Dublin. This is not hard fact. No one really knows where he raised the troops or where he was after he left the Isle of Mann. All that is certain is that he was NOT the Duke of WE. IS. in 1066. He would have been a courtier in the court of Godred Sigtryggsson - king of the Isle of Mann and vassal to the King of Dublin, Murchad.
In the game, of course, there is no count on the Isle of Mann in 1066.
Perhaps we need to add Godred Sigtryggsson as a count vassal to Murchad and place Godred Haraldsson Crovan as a coutier and heir. Add an even that gives control to Crovan in 1079.
WE. IS. should begin 1066 as a county under the Duke of Orkney with no count. If an event is added for the 1079 seizure of Isle of Mann by Crovan, then WE. IS. could be added to his demense by the same event.
It is sheer speculation on my part that the Ragnhild Maria is the same Maria who is said to have died as a child. I am simply trying to solve the mystery. Every single source I found says that this Ragnhild Maria was the daughter of Harald and Elizabeth who was born around 1060. You do the math. Either the story about Maria dropping dead is a myth, or the Ragnhild Maria that appears and marries Crovan is not Harald's daughter afterall and her ancestry is a mistake lost in history.
Regards,
Eikinskjaldi
For the sake of speed, I've had to rely on internet searches of Both Ragnhild and Godred Haraldsson Crovan. At the start of 1066 scenario, he is married to Ragnhild Maria and is duke of WE. IS.
From all I could find, it appears that Ragnhild Maria who married Godred is the same Maria who is said to have died on 25SEP66.
I'm beginning to suspect that the story of Maria dropping dead on the same day (and according to legend, at the same moment) as her father is apocryphal. Also, I originally posted the wrong dates, Stamford bridge was the 25SEP, not 23SEP. Also, some sources say that Maria died on the same day, others say 2 days later.
Now, you might be wondering what makes me suspect that the Ragnhild Maria is the same Maria who allegedly died is this:
The Ragnhild Maria who married Godred gave him three sons, the first of whom was born around 1080. Godred died in 1095 when his youngest son was said to still be a child. Now, if Maria did not die on or about 25SEP66 and grew up and married Godred, she would be the perfect age to start having children around 1080.
Godred himself is misplaced by the game. He is said to have fought with Harald at Stamford and hauled a$$ to the Isle of Mann immediately afterwards with his kinsman who was the ruler there. Then, in 1079, he attacked and took the Isle of Mann with support from men he raised in Dublin. This is not hard fact. No one really knows where he raised the troops or where he was after he left the Isle of Mann. All that is certain is that he was NOT the Duke of WE. IS. in 1066. He would have been a courtier in the court of Godred Sigtryggsson - king of the Isle of Mann and vassal to the King of Dublin, Murchad.
In the game, of course, there is no count on the Isle of Mann in 1066.
Perhaps we need to add Godred Sigtryggsson as a count vassal to Murchad and place Godred Haraldsson Crovan as a coutier and heir. Add an even that gives control to Crovan in 1079.
WE. IS. should begin 1066 as a county under the Duke of Orkney with no count. If an event is added for the 1079 seizure of Isle of Mann by Crovan, then WE. IS. could be added to his demense by the same event.
It is sheer speculation on my part that the Ragnhild Maria is the same Maria who is said to have died as a child. I am simply trying to solve the mystery. Every single source I found says that this Ragnhild Maria was the daughter of Harald and Elizabeth who was born around 1060. You do the math. Either the story about Maria dropping dead is a myth, or the Ragnhild Maria that appears and marries Crovan is not Harald's daughter afterall and her ancestry is a mistake lost in history.
Regards,
Eikinskjaldi
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