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Arrggg.... Those terrible vassals break away events.:mad: Worst addition to the game ever! Didn't work properly either.
 

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Johan said:

*doffs cap*

Then this is worth the expansion alone.

Even more eager for the expansion

*if thats possible*

Aye.
 

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cool! I will defitnatly have to buy as my birthday present for myself this year. :D
 

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Oh, how I hate them!They make no sense in most of cases, and are more an annoyance than real trouble...

Why they don't make sense and how would they be real trouble?
 

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Byakhiam said:
Why they don't make sense and how would they be real trouble?
Well, it often happens that a vassal breaks allegiance, and then, after a couple of months, asks to be your vassal again(if you're low on BB). That just keeps happening again and again. I rarely have to actually fight to get him/his lands back.
I'm not talking about realm duress - that is/can be quite a challenge.
 

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Nikolai said:
Arrggg.... Those terrible vassals break away events.:mad: Worst addition to the game ever! Didn't work properly either.

Hopefully they'll fix that. One game I decided to just get rid of all my vassals and have a super demesne. Of course it was rather tricky.
 

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Pellucid said:
Actually, there is a (possibly non-canon) book available that gives little blurbs about other houses (which is where the developers of Dune 2 got the Ordos). You'd probably have to make up an awful lot of details, but you could get the names and general tendencies from it (and I don't know what it's called, so you'd also have to find it first, haha).

I have that book. Out of print now. :D

It lists all the house with their number of votes in landsraad :cool:
 

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Drakken said:
The problem is that we know only a few Major Houses. The Landsraad is supposed to have hundreds of Houses, both Major and Minor, that we do not know. Herbert used only the Atreides, the Harkonnen, and the Corrino.

Read The Sabres of Paradise by Lesley Blanch. Besides being a good read and background on some of the problems in Chechenya, it should give you some family names to borrow, as Hebert borrowed a lot from the book himself.

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vertinox said:
Hopefully they'll fix that. One game I decided to just get rid of all my vassals and have a super demesne. Of course it was rather tricky.

Seconded. It should be possible to get rebellious vassals back into the fold without crushing them, but it shouldn't be handled like that.
 

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Enravota said:
Personal relations anyone :D .

Why not? Marrying off your daughter to someone outside your court might mean something other than trouble then. :)
 

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Gothmog said:
Why not? Marrying off your daughter to someone outside your court might mean something other than trouble then. :)

Marrying your daughter to a vassal will make him more loyal to you, already :)
 

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Veldmaarschalk said:
Marrying your daughter to a vassal will make him more loyal to you, already :)
Marrying children or relatives wouldn't work though. I was referring towards that a rebellious vassal who hates your guts (on a personal level), will hardly pledge the next day, while your vassal fanboi will never rebel in any case ;)
 

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Veldmaarschalk said:
Marrying your daughter to a vassal will make him more loyal to you, already :)

Yep, but the marshall tends to be in my own court, right?
 

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Enravota said:
Marrying children or relatives wouldn't work though. I was referring towards that a rebellious vassal who hates your guts (on a personal level), will hardly pledge the next day, while your vassal fanboi will never rebel in any case ;)

Well, that's not what I was thinking about, but as to the current situation, we might as well take a page out of roman history and marry off sisters/daughters as peace offerings. :)
 

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Veldmaarschalk said:
Gothmog said:
Why not? Marrying off your daughter to someone outside your court might mean something other than trouble then. :)

Marrying your daughter to a vassal will make him more loyal to you, already


Yep, but the marshall tends to be in my own court, right?

:confused:
 

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Veldmaarschalk said:

Oh, sorry. Misread vassal as marshal. Silly of me. :)