Destroy Holding

[Naughtius Maximus]

I'm unfamiliar with the change to Nomad raiding, but if I remember correctly it involves the ability to reliably destroy holdings now?

I'd like destroy a few holdings in my desmense. How would I go about doing so?

I'm thinking I give it to a new vassal, grant him independence, and then raid him until the holding burns then de jure and get it back.

If I do so do I get to choose which holding burns?

 

[CaptainPolyp]

Pillaging the holdings you own as nomad should still destroy them when every improvements is destroyed!?
Or I don't understang your question?

 

[Naughtius Maximus]

I'd like to get rid of a few holdings.

If I understand correctly Nomads have had changes to their razing mechanics. Or am I reading it wrong?

Anyways if I'm reading it right (nomads more reliable razing options) then can I give land to vassal, raid it, and then reliably raze the holding I don't want?

Or is it just going to be random?

 

[CaptainPolyp]

If I did not miss anything, only how you pillage holdings has been changed. I'm not sure the razing mechanics changed; I did not played since the patch.
Before the patche, it was already possible to reliably pillage holdings but you had to pillage (your own holdings) at regular intervals by making a click (actually 2 clicks) for each holdings (which was tedious and boring). Each pillage removed 2 improvements of the holding, when all improvements were removed, the holding was destructed.
What changed is that now, for each county (or each holdings I'm not sure), you enable pillaging and each 6 months, the county will be pillaged automatically. I think that it still works the same way: pillage
removes improvements, when no improvements, the holding is destroyed.

You can only pillage you own holdings (every 6 months) and the holdings you occupy (but only every few years and for a lower yield)

I don't know if raiding your vassals work (you can raid your nomadic vassals with whom you got a feud tho). If it works, it should be the same raiding mechanics than the usual raiding mechanics (existing for tribals and hindus).

 

[Naughtius Maximus]

Wait so you can pillage your own holdings while still owning them?

Oh wait.....I'm guessing you lose this ability if you're feudal, huh? I'm not much into Nomad play yet, so unfamiliar with mechanics of raiding.

 

[CaptainPolyp]

yes. you can pillage the holdings you own. I does not work with raiding tho. I just checked how the new system works. in the county tab, right click on the holding you want to pillage and click on "pillage holding". Every 6 months, the holding will be pillaged, loosing 2 imprivements each times and giving you 50 gold (10 if you only occupy the holding without owning it) and 5 tech points in a random field. The holding will be destroyed when being pillaged while being down to less than 2 improvements.
To stop pillaging a holding, right click and "stop pillaging"

Note that owning a lot of holdings for pillage impairs the taxes you get from feudal, mayor and bishoprics vassals but since these taxes are rarely worth what pillage gives you, this is not really a problem.
Note also that each time you pillage a holding, it increases the risk of revolt so you'll have to manage a lot of them, especially is you go on a pillage spree, pillaging all at the same time.

You lose the ability to pillage when settling as feudal or MR

 

[Naughtius Maximus]

Welp, that's a loss then.

I'm basically Feudal Zunists, unfortunately. I switched culture to Turkish to allow raiding, so I was wondering if I could destroy select holdings.

But apparently raiding =/= pillaging. Raiding itself won't destroy holdings. Duly noted...

 

[CaptainPolyp]

Yup... for your case, raiding works the same way it works for vikings (for instance)