Destiny: A historical RPG campaign

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Missions for next session:

Denmark:
To conquer at least one province from the Livonian Order
Reward:
Denmark gains Ugric culture

Sweden:
To conquer at least one province from Denmark
Reward:
1% Deflation for attempting and a state gift for succeeding.

Brandenburg
To protect at least one protestant HRE member from being force converted
Reward:
A state gift for accepting and one for completing

Saxony
To protect at least one protestant HRE member from being force converted
Reward:
A state gift for accepting and one for completing

Bavaria
To make Denmark cede the vassalship of Bremen
Reward:
A 3-4-4 leader will Join Bavaria. This leader may only be used for the war against Denmark. A state gift for succeeding.

Portugal:
Conquer at least four Muslim provinces in the Portuguese ToT
Reason:
Portuguese AAR says: "The king of Portugal officially requests the pope to grant Portugal holy casus bellis on all pagans and muslims within the Portuguese part of the world, given to us in the Treaty of Tordesillas, so that we can rid the world of these unbelievers with God's backing."
Reward:
Portugal gains a perm CB on every Muslim country in her ToT

The Ottoman Empire:
To Conquer at least Cyprus from Venice
Reward:
1% deflation for accepting, a state gift for succeeding

Poland:
To defend Polotsk
Reward:
A state gift for accepting

Russia:
To conquer Polotsk
Reward:
A state gift for accepting

France:
To gain sole control of the provinces north of the St. Lawrence river
Reward:
1% deflation for accepting

England:
To gain sole control the provinces south of the St. Lawrence
Reward:
1% deflation for accepting

Venice:
To defend Cyprus
Reward:
A state gift for accepting

Venice:
To conquer Rhodes from the Ottoman Empire
Reward:
1% deflation for accepting, a state gift for succeeding

Spanish-Austrian missions will follow after the matter about them is settled.

 

[Hive]

OK, I will try checking things, we all should.

Please, post the list of ALL the edits done or planned for Habsburg Empire.

Easy way:
- Cores, cultures, leaders and events moved from Austria to Spain
- Spain inherits Austria
- Austrian events tied to other nations/other nations' events tied to Austria are tweaked
- A second capital for Spain is added in Vienna

The more time consuming way, but also much cooler:
- A new nation is created: Habsburg Empire
- Habsburg Empire receives cores, cultures, leaders, events, colonynames, randomleaders names from Spain and Austria
- Events fixed like in the above example
- 2 capitals: Madrid and Vienna

That should be it, I think.

 

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If an Austrian Player cannot be found, I am more then willing to move to Austria. Fighting the Great Russian Bear is a bit of a hand full and a move would suit me better.

 

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Sorry but how can i justify a mission that will cost 200-300 ducats at least, for a gift of 50 ducats. Even the leader can only be used against denmark.

I dont mind fighting for no benifit but i need the means to do so.

 

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Sorry but how can i justify a mission that will cost 200-300 ducats at least, for a gift of 50 ducats. Even the leader can only be used against denmark.

I dont mind fighting for no benifit but i need the means to do so.

Check the Swedish mission

 

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If an Austrian Player cannot be found, I am more then willing to move to Austria. Fighting the Great Russian Bear is a bit of a hand full and a move would suit me better.

I need to talk with you on ICQ about this then.

If you are unhappy with Poland, moving to Austria is of course an option. But it leaves us with no player for Poland.

 

[BiB]

Sorry but how can i justify a mission that will cost 200-300 ducats at least, for a gift of 50 ducats. Even the leader can only be used against denmark.

I dont mind fighting for no benifit but i need the means to do so.

Hey, last session I added nearly 5 inflation to get 1 deflation fighting the OE

 

[BiB]

If an Austrian Player cannot be found, I am more then willing to move to Austria. Fighting the Great Russian Bear is a bit of a hand full and a move would suit me better.

That would only move the problem of course. And if you think it is hard finding a player for Austria, finding one for Poland is not exactly an easier task.

 

[BiB]

Easy way:
- Cores, cultures, leaders and events moved from Austria to Spain
- Spain inherits Austria
- Austrian events tied to other nations/other nations' events tied to Austria are tweaked
- A second capital for Spain is added in Vienna

The more time consuming way, but also much cooler:
- A new nation is created: Habsburg Empire
- Habsburg Empire receives cores, cultures, leaders, events, colonynames, randomleaders names from Spain and Austria
- Events fixed like in the above example
- 2 capitals: Madrid and Vienna

That should be it, I think.

Why 2 capitals? A nation only has one. Regional capitals all you want, but there's really just one for the whole Empire.

 

[Hive]

Why 2 capitals? A nation only has one. Regional capitals all you want, but there's really just one for the whole Empire.

You want the no land connection to capital penalty in the Austrian part of your empire? Ok, fine with me...

 

[BiB]

You want the no land connection to capital penalty in the Austrian part of your empire? Ok, fine with me...

Yes, I would want it if it were the case (see below), why would I deserve not to get that penalty?

And the game only takes in account the first capital anyway when determining the no land connection to capital penalty so even with a capital in Wien, there'd be a penalty there.

 

[Hive]

And the game only takes in account the first capital anyway when determining the no land connection to capital penalty so even with a capital in Wien, there'd be a penalty there.

Really? Oh... well nevermind then. My bad.

 

[Fredrik82]

That would only move the problem of course. And if you think it is hard finding a player for Austria, finding one for Poland is not exactly an easier task.

Nothing wrong with Poland, but Austria is 10 times more importent really.
Especially in this game.

I would strongly recomend this, and we'll try to find a player for Poland for next session instead.

 

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And since Austria had some bad luch with the Bohemian inheritance and later with permanent player later, perhaps until than Poland (and Lithuania?) could be Austrian vassal?

 

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I say let lord robertus be austria. That way we have one right now and can stop thinking about it. poland will be hard to find too but frankly they aint half as important.

BTW Fal can i have a decent mission please. You keep giving me shit ones. How about one of those nice protestant conversion ones. They rule.

 

[BiB]

Nothing wrong with Poland, but Austria is 10 times more importent really.
Especially in this game.

I would strongly recomend this, and we'll try to find a player for Poland for next session instead.

Not saying Austria isn't but we still need a Poland too. A Poland without a perm also is unacceptable in my view. So, it still comes down to having to find a player just like before and methinks that'll be easier for Austria but if you can find a player for Poland better instead of Austria, be my guest.

 

[BiB]

Now if Saxony or Bavaria would step in as Austria, those nations really are extras. Poland is not.

 

[Fredrik82]

Not saying Austria isn't but we still need a Poland too. A Poland without a perm also is unacceptable in my view. So, it still comes down to having to find a player just like before and methinks that'll be easier for Austria but if you can find a player for Poland better instead of Austria, be my guest.

Actually, Austria is not very easy to fill either. Many players are very sceptical towards them.

But if not finding a perm for next session we should atleast be able to get a sub for Poland, and a subbed Poland is far better then a subbed Austria

 

[Fredrik82]

Now if Saxony or Bavaria would step in as Austria, those nations really are extras. Poland is not.

Agreed, this is the far best option.
But the perm for Saxony, Artimes, was unable to continue play as a perm right?
Also, maybe an Bavaria merged with austria, with Bavarian tag and Austrian leaders/events also is an option?
Ahistorical maybe, but it might convince cheecho to do this

 

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Actually, Austria is not very easy to fill either. Many players are very sceptical towards them.

But if not finding a perm for next session we should atleast be able to get a sub for Poland, and a subbed Poland is far better then a subbed Austria

On the other hand: A perm Poland and a perm solution for the Austrian question is better than a subbed Poland.

But as I said, I am going to talk with Robertus first. If he is really unhappy with Poland, then we ought to consider that too. Demotivated players is not good too.

That said, Robertus twice could only join later than the starting time and twice had to go earlier. So those issues have to be solved first before he is going to play Austria.
In other words: if he plays Austria, he needs to be able to play from start to finish.