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FAL said:
Nice AAR cheech, but two comments:

  • I personally like the name Dutchy of Bavaria, but it's a typo :D
  • I believe the holy league only acts against the Turk?

I think he refers to some catholic HRE league, not the Holy League Spain is leading.
 

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The events arnt historical for sure. They shouldnt get any cores until/if they become prussia.

If its gameplay your going for then the events so far + these new ones give him unfair advantage.

If its historical your going for its wrong too. Bavaria was always a stronger power then brand until well after the tyw.

I suggest care is taken when building events and missions to keep a historical and gameplay balance in germany.
 

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FAL said:
Heh. Now you bring this up:

The last beta patch of Paradox incorporated some new cores and manpower boosts for Brandenburg in a few events. The AoI mod lacks these changes.
K'shar asked me to incorporate those for our campaign.

So, unless someone (and I am not meaning Hive here) has a good reason why those beta-patch changes are a bad idea, I will change the events to make them the same as the paradox one.

I think some of those vanilla changes have been over the top (they get far too many cores) but I don't have any problem with a Brandenburg that has managed to become Prussia getting some benefits :D
 

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Didnt i call it the holy legion? I meant to but its hard to type when your boss is watching over your back :) - i did it as an email to try and be cunning then pasted it in quickly.
 

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FAL said:
(and I am not meaning Hive here)

Now i understand why Hive told FAL and Daniel: "i`ll watch with pleasure on you as GM". Hive is working very good to be bothered painass and making worse FAL`s life
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Now i understand why Hive told FAL and Daniel: "i`ll watch with pleasure on you as GM". Hive is working very good to be bothered painass and making worse FAL`s life
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You got it. He really tries to whine, bitch and annoy me as much as possible here! :D

But I still managed to forgive him.
 

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FAL said:
Heh. Now you bring this up:

The last beta patch of Paradox incorporated some new cores and manpower boosts for Brandenburg in a few events. The AoI mod lacks these changes.
K'shar asked me to incorporate those for our campaign.

So, unless someone (and I am not meaning Hive here) has a good reason why those beta-patch changes are a bad idea, I will change the events to make them the same as the paradox one.

The fact that Johan threw it into a beta patch does not make it fair or right - and most certainly not historical!

Brandenburg should *not* be a major power untill well after they become Prussia (more notably during the times of Frederick The Great). And as Prussia, they have plenty of great events already...
 

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FAL said:
You got it. He really tries to whine, bitch and annoy me as much as possible here! :D

But I still managed to forgive him.

Actually, as much fun as it would probably be, I'm not whining and bitching just to annoy you. I'm doing it because I want the game to be as good as possible - which some of your more odd decisions are obstructing. :p
 
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Hive said:
[...]I'm doing it because I want the game to be as good as possible [...]

They all say that!

As for Brandenburg, well there are a few beta patch threads where people could give their opinion about the changes. You know that, for example, the beta straits received a lot of flak, while the BB changes did not. That's a reason I judged them to be allright. Not just because Johan incorporated them.
 

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Hive said:
Actually, as much fun as it would probably be, I'm not whining and bitching just to annoy you. I'm doing it because I want the game to be as good as possible - which some of your more odd decisions are obstructing. :p

now i know how to make New Order IV great game
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P.S. #1 Obey the GM
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FAL said:
As for Brandenburg, well there are a few beta patch threads where people could give their opinion about the changes. You know that, for example, the beta straits received a lot of flak, while the BB changes did not. That's a reason I judged them to be allright. Not just because Johan incorporated them.

The reason the Brandenburg changes didn't get a lot of flak was because bigger issues like the straits and Denmark getting German culture were so much more radical. ;)

But if you can give me good reasons why this should be included (and I don't count "it was in a beta patch" as a good reason), then I'll stop whining right away. :)
 
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But if you can give me good reasons why this should be included (and I don't count "it was in a beta patch" as a good reason), then I'll stop whining right away. :)

I don't think I need to defend each and every paradox change. We play with the beta patch changes anyway, to test them out in multiplayer.

In other words: your mod is your personal pup project, so you need to defend why the changes are not there, not vice versa.
 

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FAL said:
If both England and Sweden stayed in the war, Denmark would lose. Of course, it would cause great damage to their economy, but so it would do to the Danish.
Besides, Sweden being AI allowed Denmark to fight alone against England, which resulted in England quickly signing peace.

Denmark is now doing great, she is one of the more richer nations and Sweden suffered from being AI.

So, I would say Denmark is really lucky Sweden was AI.

In the save Denmark can recruit in Copenhagen. It's a fact. I can send you the save if you want to control it yourself.

Denmark might have lost but nothing can be said with certainty afaik. It also depends on how you define "lose".

Denmark is now doing good but could be doing better with a won war and 2 manufactories.

I guess "luck" is not the word to use for a player being absent by mistake but I agree it must be regarded as an advantage for Denmark.
 

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Hive said:
But if you can give me good reasons why this should be included (and I don't count "it was in a beta patch" as a good reason), then I'll stop whining right away. :)

... and immediatly starts to watch for new subject for the whining
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In fact, this game is thought to be with many GM decisions, and most of them have several points of view. The person with 100% whine rating will complain about all decisions
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Btw, Hive, didn`t i tell i like you ?
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P.S. FAL: And i told Hive many times that he should defend his change, and not critic vanilla instead
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FAL said:
I did not dispute that, it was Tonio! *points to Tonio*

Boris told he can`t recruit troops.
But it is indeed - capital has -2RR bonus, so Denmark could hire a bit there. And Denmark seemed to be from +1 from max WE. So either Denmark would lose ability to gain troops very soon or would get it twice less on maximum WE.
 

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The Treaty of Madeira

The honourable king of Portugal had invited the equally glorious kings of England and Spain to his summer residence on Madeira, in order to discuss English and Spanish trespassing in Africa.

After numerous bottles of juicy Madeira wine, the following was agreed:

- England will cede Louga (801) to the crown of Portugal.
- Spain will cede Tassaret (804) to the crown of Portugal.
- Portugal will give England 150d as a gift to help cover some of the expenses for their excellent missionary efforts in suppressing the lutherian plige.

Signed, João III of Portugal.
 

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FAL said:
I don't think I need to defend each and every paradox change. We play with the beta patch changes anyway, to test them out in multiplayer.

In other words: your mod is your personal pup project, so you need to defend why the changes are not there, not vice versa.

I already told you why I didn't include it: it's completely ahistorical and unbalancing.

Now I still await you to tell me why I am wrong, of course. :)
 

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FAL said:
I would like to know why it is unbalancing.

As for ahistorical, I agree about the cores, but the manpower?

It's unbalancing for two reasons:

1. Bavaria, whom you introduced as a somewhat equal to Brandenburg, will be worth nothing in comparison.

2. Once/if Brandenburg becomes Prussia and obtains many new provinces, the extra manpower will be felt... and imagine what happens if he even succeeds in becoming Germany later...