Denmark problems and ways to fix them.

[ThePatriotOfDreumel]

did u start this game because u find denmark hard? that is quite pathetic since it is one of the easiest countries in europe

No, because I want to see them survive longer than 25 years as AI.

 

[FLESH HUNTER]

I found it very hard with one diplo slot...The one way to beat the Swedes with friends was to ally everyone...So...Go not enough diploslots...

 

[Retherz]

I found it very hard with one diplo slot...The one way to beat the Swedes with friends was to ally everyone...So...Go not enough diploslots...

you can still get a couple more allies...

 

[Retherz]

No, because I want to see them survive longer than 25 years as AI.

so you want to see sweden annexed everytime? that is what will happen if they will have around 20 liberty desire. removed - Had a dad

 

[ThePatriotOfDreumel]

so you want to see sweden annexed everytime? that is what will happen if they will have around 20 liberty desire. removed - Had a dad

Retherz, I didn't even suggest removing the historical rival modifier...

 

[FLESH HUNTER]

Rethez...I CAN"T BEAT ENGLAND, PLC, AND SWEDEN! Who am I meant to ally against that? Who can take all of that down?

 

[ThePatriotOfDreumel]

Rethez...I CAN"T BEAT ENGLAND, PLC, AND SWEDEN! Who am I meant to ally against that? Who can take all of that down?

Your 100 galleys that you should have build in these 4 months before Sweden declares, obviously.

 

[FLESH HUNTER]

Can I buy mercenary Galleys?

 

[Retherz]

Rethez...I CAN"T BEAT ENGLAND, PLC, AND SWEDEN! Who am I meant to ally against that? Who can take all of that down?

Never seen poland support their independence and england doesn't always rival denmark. You can DOW LO from day one to take the swedish core

 

[TheWolfFate]

I'm pretty sure Retherz is a troll, all he's done troughout this entire thread is dissagree with pretty much every single statement made by anyone.

 

[TheDungen]

Well, as the Kalmar Union signifies, a common "Scandinavia" was a thing at the beginning of the game. The country grouping seems to have an undeniable historical basis and afaik the beginning of the unity marketing was a real thing borne by art and culture at the start of the 1800's with the Kalmar Union as the template. Culturally, Denmark (and by proxy Iceland, Norway and the semiautonomous nations) and Sweden (and by proxy Finland and the semiautonomous nation(s)) are related for good or bad both historically, culturally and politically. Now, tsariate Russia and the baltics are related to Scandinavia and particularly Estonia for historical reasons, but the relation there has always been of a far less political dimension.

As for Copenhagen being bossy, I think most people in Denmark outside of Copenhagen would agree. We have a discussion about "the rotten banana", which is basically anything outside a 50 km radius of Copenhagen and it is borne by a massive centralisation of power away from regions and communities towards the national assembly and beyond since the 1990's, but that is off topic.

The kalmar union was not scandinavia it was the kalmar union, a brief union long ago of three kingdoms that had shared some history almost half a millenia prior and little shared future beyond war after that (s the three kingdoms, Denmark and norway obviouslt share loads of history beyond that). Why do yu think sweden was so surpised when Jean Baptist Benadotte wanted Norway out of his peace with napoleon, becuase the idea of scandinavia meant nothign to them, while finnland was the brother people.
I even disagree there should be a scandinavian culturegroup, I think they'd fit in pretty well in the german one. The whole nordics are apart like the dutch being apart is really a destinction caused by the unification of germany much much later. Sure swedes and danes may have been vikings toghether once but in 1523-1871 sweden probably has more links to germany and the balt states than to denmark. Hence why swedens main enemy changes to russia over time.
This scandinavia idea is sweden trying to westwash. Repaint it's history so that it belongs in western europe when eastern europe became a negative term.

 

[FLESH HUNTER]

Never seen poland support their independence and england doesn't always rival denmark. You can DOW LO from day one to take the swedish core

Then you haven't tried to play them for 5 hours seeing the chances of semi decent rivals
(Poland is rare to rival but it can happen)

 

[Mr. Capiatlist]

A casual reminder that both trolling and baiting are generally strongly discouraged. Since this thread is nothing but both, why don't we end it on that friendly PSA?