Denmark problems and ways to fix them.

[BaZERGer]

- Skåne, Halland & Blekinge are no longer swedish cores from the start.

Not to sound greedy, but has any considerations made about Jämtland?

 

[Seelmeister]

This thread has largely been a respectful discussion, but in the last few pages there are a number of posts personally insulting other users/ nationalities. These posts have been deleted, and any further insulting behaviour will not be tolerated.

Thanks to the majority for ignoring those insulting posts.

 

[ShoGuL]

This is a pretty ridiculous conversation.. there is absolutely no doubt in any Dane's mind that we are part of Scandinavia. It's one of those 'take it from someone who lives here' kind of things.

 

[Retherz]

Not to sound greedy, but has any considerations made about Jämtland?

i dont see why not, they should remove all cores countries have on other nations

 

[Emperor Hadrian]

From what I have seen, the problems seems to be that Denmark can't get any decent alliances, whereas Sweden always gains either Poland or Lithuania(or both) and sometimes Muscovy and France or Austria.

Poland-Lithuania, Novgorod and a northern german state like Brandenburg is enough to withstand a rebbelion from Sweden. After the first war just placate the leaders and just declare war a lot to keep their manpower low. By the start of 1500's, all of Scandinavia will be yours! And you will be a great power! Well, with 30 troops at your disposal...

 

[TheDungen]

This is a pretty ridiculous conversation.. there is absolutely no doubt in any Dane's mind that we are part of Scandinavia. It's one of those 'take it from someone who lives here' kind of things.

Well those of who actually live on the scandinavian peninsula may not agree. Estonia has no doubt that it's a nordic country, but the other nordics do. Denmark may feel part of scandinavia but do the Swedes and norwegians agree?

 

[huyderman]

Well those of who actually live on the scandinavian peninsula may not agree. Estonia has no doubt that it's a nordic country, but the other nordics do. Denmark may feel part of scandinavia but do the Swedes and norwegians agree?

I would say "yes". I've never really hard anyone express otherwise, nor considered the notion otherwise.

 

[TheDungen]

I would say "yes". I've never really hard anyone express otherwise, nor considered the notion otherwise.

Then you haven't been listening. There are plenty of people in sweden who find it odd that the country grouping scandinavia should include denmark.

 

[Haccoude]

Then you haven't been listening. There are plenty of people in sweden who find it odd that the country grouping scandinavia should include denmark.

New people I assume? Because that would a reinterpretation of what Scandinavia is, since the classical definition has always included Denmark.

 

[Choombi]

just give Zealand and Jutland more development, should solve stuff.

On the utterly ireleavant and off topic discussion that should not be going around but does anyway: as far as i know, "Scandinavia" is a name for the countries with a Scandinavian culture, that is Denmark, Norway, Sweden, and iceland, i guess.

 

[Retherz]

New people I assume? Because that would a reinterpretation of what Scandinavia is, since the classical definition has always included Denmark.

It did until 1658, some people are a bit behind *cough* danes *cough*

 

[Haccoude]

It did until 1658, some people are a bit behind *cough* danes *cough*

Not really, since "Scandinavia" only really enters common usage in the 19th century. As term for pan-nationalists who want a Danish/Swedish/Norwegian union.
So from the very beginning of the term, Denmark has been part of it. And that beginning lies after 1658.

If you want to go before that, "Scandinavia" doesn't refer to the peninsula, but is a vague term roughly similar to Scania. Either Denmark is part of Scandinavia, or Stockholm isn't.

 

[FLESH HUNTER]

For the off-topic:


(Hopefully the video does work but not entirely sure...)

 

[Retherz]

For the off-topic:


(Hopefully the video does work but not entirely sure...)

they mostly fought over norway.. ahahahahaha i hope that video is a joke

 

[Retherz]

Not really, since "Scandinavia" only really enters common usage in the 19th century. As term for pan-nationalists who want a Danish/Swedish/Norwegian union.
So from the very beginning of the term, Denmark has been part of it. And that beginning lies after 1658.

If you want to go before that, "Scandinavia" doesn't refer to the peninsula, but is a vague term roughly similar to Scania. Either Denmark is part of Scandinavia, or Stockholm isn't.

Then Iceland should be Scandinavia and I have never heard anyone say that

 

[TheWolfFate]

ITT: Overly nationalistic people.

 

[FLESH HUNTER]

Any country apart of the Nordic Council is Nordic...All agree?

 

[hashinshin]

Never expected a thread about buffing Denmark to end in questioning what Scandinavia really is.

This would be like a "buff Bavaria" thread ending in asking if Bavarians are really Germans.

 

[Retherz]

Never expected a thread about buffing Denmark to end in questioning what Scandinavia really is.

This would be like a "buff Bavaria" thread ending in asking if Bavarians are really Germans.

well they aren't

 

[ThePatriotOfDreumel]

well they aren't

Bavarians are Germans, just like Flemish people are Dutch.

EDIT: I agree that this is an exceptionally civilized thread, since most Denmark-Sweden threads end up as flamewars about which country was better. Well, they can fight until someone owns both sides of the öresund, intervention is needed then.