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My thoughts exactly, what I love about this AAR is that Firestorm has had to fight tooth and nail almost non-stop.... on the AIs terms.
Unfortunately, this is how it has been and likely ot be for some time. Eventually democracy must win, as it is 'good' vs. 'evil', right? Doesn't good always come out ontop?
Unfortunately, this is how it has been and likely ot be for some time. Eventually democracy must win, as it is 'good' vs. 'evil', right? Doesn't good always come out ontop?
No. It is about time people got slapped out of their happy fantasy land
Unfortunately, this is how it has been and likely ot be for some time. Eventually democracy must win, as it is 'good' vs. 'evil', right? Doesn't good always come out ontop?
Just a little question: Have you become somewhat emotional when you play this AAR? For example, if the Soviets defeated you would you genuinly feel depressed and frustrated?
Heck we have all followed this for so long I think that we all would!
I would feel humiliated. The only time I truly got angry was when Cool switched sides on me, I felt that we were close to a true victory. We had destroyed their capacity for nuclear weapons, so at that point I truly believed we could beat Germany and then focus on the Soviet Union (which was stalemated at the time).
CBC World News – May 14th, 1960
May 14th, 1960
CBC World News
"The world today. The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation now presents a summary of the all the important world news today. Reports from CBC correspondents by trans-America short wave radio, and the latest developments as received by the Canada's news room here in Ottawa. Tonight, we report on the latest news from Asia and around the world."
"The Soviet Red Army in Australia continues to put pressure on Chicago Pact forces attempting to hold the Australian port of Brisbane. The port has recently come under heavy Soviet air attack, and American fighter aircraft have been doggedly defending the skies. To the east, American forces are digging in for a Soviet offensive, which is expected to arrive any day now. The increased Soviet rocket artillery attacks which prelude the start of every Soviet offensive has already begun. Australian citizens are fleeing south along the coastal regions still in Pact hands, as many fear that Pact forces will be unable to stop the Soviet drive on the city. As it stands, the US Navy is already clearing naval mines around the port of Sydney, which will be the next supply port should Brisbane fall. The naval mines were dropped by Soviet bombers over the past few weeks, showing that Soviet Command expects the offensive on Brisbane to be a success."
"In Taiwan, yet again American forces have been unable to drive the Soviet invaders off the island. As both the Red Army and the American Army continue to struggle for this tiny island off the coast of China, the city of Kaosiung bears the brunt of the damage. Much of the city's remaining residents have fled to the country side or to safer lands on the northern half of the island, away from the combat zones."
"An American nuclear strike has hit the Siberian city of Novosibirsk, a clear sign that American strategists are trying to knock out the Soviet nuclear program. This hit-and-miss strategy employed by the American command has drawn some controversy by European governments, stating that not enough is being done to make sure civilians are not targeted, but such controversy has been silenced on most occasions. Many feel that the American nuclear strikes are justified, after the nuclear annihilation that Japan suffered under Soviet attacks. Even after efforts to help rehabilitate the Japanese country, much of the island lays in ruin and anarchy."
**Take that, Soviet scum. Uhg, I might need to replace my armor in Korea with infantry, I need that armor badly in Australia. But that would mean sending my precious fleet into the death triangle What is that? The Soviet Air-rape zone that stretches between Vietnam-Darwin-Southern Japanese Island. Their bloody bomber stacks and their 'escort' attachments are so large that they actually knock down some of MY aircraft in the process. It s a dangerous region...not to mention their carriers. edit: last 3 updates have been all on the 14th of March, April, and May. lol**
May 14th, 1960
CBC World News
"The world today. The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation now presents a summary of the all the important world news today. Reports from CBC correspondents by trans-America short wave radio, and the latest developments as received by the Canada's news room here in Ottawa. Tonight, we report on the latest news from Asia and around the world."
"The Soviet Red Army in Australia continues to put pressure on Chicago Pact forces attempting to hold the Australian port of Brisbane. The port has recently come under heavy Soviet air attack, and American fighter aircraft have been doggedly defending the skies. To the east, American forces are digging in for a Soviet offensive, which is expected to arrive any day now. The increased Soviet rocket artillery attacks which prelude the start of every Soviet offensive has already begun. Australian citizens are fleeing south along the coastal regions still in Pact hands, as many fear that Pact forces will be unable to stop the Soviet drive on the city. As it stands, the US Navy is already clearing naval mines around the port of Sydney, which will be the next supply port should Brisbane fall. The naval mines were dropped by Soviet bombers over the past few weeks, showing that Soviet Command expects the offensive on Brisbane to be a success."
"In Taiwan, yet again American forces have been unable to drive the Soviet invaders off the island. As both the Red Army and the American Army continue to struggle for this tiny island off the coast of China, the city of Kaosiung bears the brunt of the damage. Much of the city's remaining residents have fled to the country side or to safer lands on the northern half of the island, away from the combat zones."
"An American nuclear strike has hit the Siberian city of Novosibirsk, a clear sign that American strategists are trying to knock out the Soviet nuclear program. This hit-and-miss strategy employed by the American command has drawn some controversy by European governments, stating that not enough is being done to make sure civilians are not targeted, but such controversy has been silenced on most occasions. Many feel that the American nuclear strikes are justified, after the nuclear annihilation that Japan suffered under Soviet attacks. Even after efforts to help rehabilitate the Japanese country, much of the island lays in ruin and anarchy."
**Take that, Soviet scum. Uhg, I might need to replace my armor in Korea with infantry, I need that armor badly in Australia. But that would mean sending my precious fleet into the death triangle What is that? The Soviet Air-rape zone that stretches between Vietnam-Darwin-Southern Japanese Island. Their bloody bomber stacks and their 'escort' attachments are so large that they actually knock down some of MY aircraft in the process. It s a dangerous region...not to mention their carriers. edit: last 3 updates have been all on the 14th of March, April, and May. lol**
I did, only way to keep their nukes from flowing. I'd rather use all my nukes there and nowhere else then be on the receiving end again. My reactors are not at their level yet, I think I am at 7 now. I am sick of being nuked! Even if my allies bore the brunt of it...its just hurtin' on my personal moral...knowing a nuke could destroy an advance at any minute.
I just wasted a good hour and a half reading some of my old reports from the war in Europe as well as their comments :rofl: Yes, even I go back and get dragged into reading them again. I need to get to bed, 12:43 am and I got to get up in ~6 hours :rofl:
I just wasted a good hour and a half reading some of my old reports from the war in Europe as well as their comments :rofl: Yes, even I go back and get dragged into reading them again. I need to get to bed, 12:43 am and I got to get up in ~6 hours :rofl:
I think that writing an event that doubles your nuke production rate is called for. Not only is it not a gamey tactic in my opinion, but it would also give you an edge that you need.
well it should take years for the reactor to get back to full strength now.
how high is the perm infra in Novosibirsk? 0.1%?
It should be at that level, since he has level 9 nukes.
It would actually take two years for even a level 1 reactor to start churning out a nuke.So he should be free from the nuke threat for some time now. Good. Keep it that way!!! otherwise they are going to blow a hole into the Korean front and annihilate the US army yet again.
I would now try to drive them out of Australia, and then turn the tide in the air war. Maybe allocate one nuke to Australia, and two to operations needed for the air war... like, one for the reconquest of Philippines (try to bag some Soviet air squadrons there!!! Paras are your friend!) and then one for the liberation of Taiwan.
After that focus all production on holding the line in Korea, and winning the air war. Stack aircraft onto the regained bases in the Philippines, Japan and Taiwan. Favor naval bombers over ships, naval bombers are more versatile and you do not lose such a huge investment in one swoop if you suffer a defeat.
Stockpile the nukes while you can, and once the hordes of aircraft are pushed back, try to break out from Korea. Then use the nukes. Use them when appropriate... one or two for softening up the enemy line, then all the rest for destroying pockets of resistance.
This is how the Soviets planned to win WW3 in Europe: Break through NATO's forward defense using conventional and limited atomic means, then put all effort into keeping the war fluid and mobile, and push NATO into the German cities and built-up areas. Avoid combat in those areas, nuke them to wipe out the pockets, so that the advance does not get bogged down. Overrun west Germany and reach the Rhine seven days after the start of operations. Even if NATO escalates to all-out nuclear war and communications with Moscow are lost, do not stop the advance.
Once you have turned the tide in the air war and established strong NAV bomber patrols over the vital sea lanes, this is how you should approach the Manchurian and Chinese theatres. Defeat the AI with maneuver warfare, using the atomic bombs to augment your forces' hitting power. Avoid getting bogged down because the AI has a lot more units than you, and if you stand still he will grind you to dust. So keep the maneuver fluid, encircle large pockets, and then quickly nuke them. That way you could grind down the Soviet army and get into new positions deep in China, where you could now establish friendly puppets or carry out a sustained bombing campaign of the Soviet production centers. If you manage to free north-central China and put the industrial centers of the USSR under Hanoi-style bombardment, that's when I would call the war won and trigger peace events.
In summary:
1) Drive the Sovs out of Australia by whatever means necessary (1-2 nukes if needed)
2) Crank out aircraft and re-invade the Philippines, Taiwan (2 nukes if necessary)
3) Deny the seas of Japan and China to the Soviet air forces by establishing a strong US air force there (no nukes unless needed to secure a substantial share of the Soviet air force)
4a) Re-open maneuver warfare by breaking out of Korea into Manchuria, Soviet far east provinces and northern China (use all your nukes there)
4b) Establish the line "Amur River - Mongolian border - Huang He river" as operational limits for the breakout from Korea
4c) If possible, invade southern China as well, but only if this does not come at a weakening of the Korean operation: Aim for a line Hong Kong - Nanjing as operational limits on the southern Chinese mainland. The purpose of this line would be to set up forward air bases to secure the Chinese seas, also to deny the industrial centers of southern China to the Soviets and secure them for a possible Chinese puppet government.
5) End the war through negotiations with the USSR. US negotiation to secure the following points for a lasting peace between USSR and Chicago pact in Asia:
I would now try to drive them out of Australia, and then turn the tide in the air war. Maybe allocate one nuke to Australia, and two to operations needed for the air war... like, one for the reconquest of Philippines (try to bag some Soviet air squadrons there!!! Paras are your friend!) and then one for the liberation of Taiwan.
After that focus all production on holding the line in Korea, and winning the air war. Stack aircraft onto the regained bases in the Philippines, Japan and Taiwan. Favor naval bombers over ships, naval bombers are more versatile and you do not lose such a huge investment in one swoop if you suffer a defeat.
Stockpile the nukes while you can, and once the hordes of aircraft are pushed back, try to break out from Korea. Then use the nukes. Use them when appropriate... one or two for softening up the enemy line, then all the rest for destroying pockets of resistance.
This is how the Soviets planned to win WW3 in Europe: Break through NATO's forward defense using conventional and limited atomic means, then put all effort into keeping the war fluid and mobile, and push NATO into the German cities and built-up areas. Avoid combat in those areas, nuke them to wipe out the pockets, so that the advance does not get bogged down. Overrun west Germany and reach the Rhine seven days after the start of operations. Even if NATO escalates to all-out nuclear war and communications with Moscow are lost, do not stop the advance.
Once you have turned the tide in the air war and established strong NAV bomber patrols over the vital sea lanes, this is how you should approach the Manchurian and Chinese theatres. Defeat the AI with maneuver warfare, using the atomic bombs to augment your forces' hitting power. Avoid getting bogged down because the AI has a lot more units than you, and if you stand still he will grind you to dust. So keep the maneuver fluid, encircle large pockets, and then quickly nuke them. That way you could grind down the Soviet army and get into new positions deep in China, where you could now establish friendly puppets or carry out a sustained bombing campaign of the Soviet production centers. If you manage to free north-central China and put the industrial centers of the USSR under Hanoi-style bombardment, that's when I would call the war won and trigger peace events.
In summary:
1) Drive the Sovs out of Australia by whatever means necessary (1-2 nukes if needed)
2) Crank out aircraft and re-invade the Philippines, Taiwan (2 nukes if necessary)
3) Deny the seas of Japan and China to the Soviet air forces by establishing a strong US air force there (no nukes unless needed to secure a substantial share of the Soviet air force)
4a) Re-open maneuver warfare by breaking out of Korea into Manchuria, Soviet far east provinces and northern China (use all your nukes there)
4b) Establish the line "Amur River - Mongolian border - Huang He river" as operational limits for the breakout from Korea
4c) If possible, invade southern China as well, but only if this does not come at a weakening of the Korean operation: Aim for a line Hong Kong - Nanjing as operational limits on the southern Chinese mainland. The purpose of this line would be to set up forward air bases to secure the Chinese seas, also to deny the industrial centers of southern China to the Soviets and secure them for a possible Chinese puppet government.
5) End the war through negotiations with the USSR. US negotiation to secure the following points for a lasting peace between USSR and Chicago pact in Asia:
- China to be let free from Soviet rule, and a neutral government to be set up at Chonqing.
- The coastal regions and Manchuria to come under a pro-US government. Sinkiang and Mongolia to remain with the Soviets.
- The formerly Russian far east provinces (everything east of the Amur river) to come either under US occupation or under a neutral Russian government. (i.e. demilitarization)
- Southeast Asia (Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos) to be neutralized under national governments.
- India to remain under Soviet rule.
You're playing of VH right? Dissent reduction is much faster for the AI; but WILL AID YOU greatly in ESE and CE in an early strike, so I suggest something different. Do what TRP is doing, and hoard it for a single "rain of fire", let them pile troops against your borders in Korea, then nuke everything and gamble on dropping nine divs of paratroopers landing on the provinces behind them to wipe them out in a single sweep.