Exactly. If you are going to buy the game on release day, a demo is not designed for you.
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Exactly. If you are going to buy the game on release day, a demo is not designed for you.
I'm pretty sure our reasons for wanting a demo are not to see if the game is good but to be able to actually play it, even if for only 20 years or so, while we wait for the release.
Is it so hard to understand that the target of this game goes a bit beyond the members of this forum?
Your reasons are not everyone reasons.
A demo is not made to pleased people who already buy the game. It's made to make people eager to buy it.
Sure, but I think the people who want an early demo want it for the reason I stated. Most of them are probably pretty sure they want to buy the game.
Right, which isn't a problem in itself, but becomes one when people start expecting a demo to be a preview version to hold them over until the full release.
There is no law or something that says demos have to be for this or this.
If the fanbase that buy the game anyway whishes a demo just to play a bit before release i doubt very much that paradox says "No, demos are not for this case so we wont do it".
That would just be stupid. It would be easy to make 2 different kind of demo´s for different target groups and different reasons.
Of course its possible that paradox has other reasons to not give "us" (the pre-purchasers) the demo we want or an early access and those reasons might be good but what some people writing here all the time makes just zero sense.
If the fanbase that buy the game anyway whishes a demo just to play a bit before release i doubt very much that paradox says "No, demos are not for this case so we wont do it".
That would just be stupid. It would be easy to make 2 different kind of demo´s for different target groups and different reasons.
Of course its possible that paradox has other reasons to not give "us" (the pre-purchasers) the demo we want or an early access and those reasons might be good but what some people writing here all the time makes just zero sense.
By no means am I saying it's a world ending or anything, but people complaining the demo is released 'only' 4 days before the actual game is a problem imo. It's a problem with expectations, and yes I'm going to use this word, entitlement.
I'm not a programmer, so maybe I'm off base, but say it would be 'easy' to make 2 different demos just wreaks of naivete. There were something like 10 people working on all of EU4. Making an extra demo that gives pre-purchasers something more is not going to be easy, or more importantly, cheap.
Demos issued prior to release may cause many folks to cancel their pre-orders or never place them at all. The purpose of the demo is to snare those on the fence AFTER the game is released. PDOX is a business designed to make profits not be part of a group of hobbyists.
Why would anyone not preorder because of a demo, thereby losing out on all the free preorder goodies?
Regardless of what your views are on the purpose of the demo, the demo is planned to be released prior to the full version release date.
people that are so eager to play, that can't wait a couple of days (i'm among them) and ask for a demo for the sole purpose of being able to play only the first 20 years and see the actual game, are sure to preorder it or buy it on day 1... so why not plese them... there is no way that someone will not buy the game on day 1 because of the demo being released sooner...
Because the game might suck, and the demo might reveal that to several people who have already preordered.
Just say yo don't want to buy it -- and note you have this right, nobody will never force you to do that.
But please, just be a little serious.
I'm just interested in getting a feel for the mechanics before release so I can just leap in when it's released and be ruling effectively in no time.
I don't want to get involved in the whole self entitled debate so I'll just say what the guy above me did. I just want the demo sooner rather than later. That said if it doesn't come I'll live.
Yes, that MAY happen. What also MAY happen is that the demo is of good quality that it inspires the purchase. I played Duke Nukem demo and didn't buy the game. But I played a lot more demos that have made me intrigued enough to actually buy the game (CK2, and Gunpoint come to mind, as does Iron Sky, XCOM, EU3, Total War games... et cetra.)
Wait, what's your point? That Companies should hide their shoddy work behind overblown marketing campaigns in the effort to fob off some sub-par pile of shit on the unsuspecting gamer? You must have grown up in the EA era, mate. Cos I remember a time where companies had to make money to make games,not the other way around.
Paradox is one of the developers out there, like CD Projekt Red, that seems to treat its customers as clients, something to be nurtured, and grown. A demo goes a long way in showing that Paradox is confidant in its product.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we're entitled to demo's, if the're some mechanical reason one can't be created, fair enough. But I think it's bullshit that we accept that the death of demo's is because we should be allowing companies to fob off crap games on us.