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Its a mistake for PDOX to release a demo. They will only lose customers who do not like the game. Its better for them to make everyone pay the price and then uninstall if they do not like EU4. I uninstall the vast majority of video games I buy within 2 weeks. If they offered demos, I would have failed to buy all those games.

I for one would very much like to try the demo just to see how it runs on my PC. If it runs ok, I'll immediately pre-order the game.
 

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Its a mistake for PDOX to release a demo. They will only lose customers who do not like the game. Its better for them to make everyone pay the price and then uninstall if they do not like EU4. I uninstall the vast majority of video games I buy within 2 weeks. If they offered demos, I would have failed to buy all those games.

It's a mistake to inform your customers and a better strategy would be to convince them to buy things they won't like? From a cynical business point of view, yes probably. But it doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.
 

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You are being too generalist. For PI it is good business:

The real target of the demo is those who have never played EU before and want to try before they buy. But with regards to all us fan-boys (not the real demo target) releasing the demo early is another way of Paradox showing they are nice guys... and PDS business model is, broadly speaking, keeping their fanboys happy so we buy all their games while also trying to reach a wider market. Releasing the demo early won't have much effect on the wider market as they won't be desperately hanging out for the release date like everyone on this forum.

So early demo = happy fan boys = loads of people gleefully buys PDS stuff for years to come = good for business...

... I guess its kind of like soma?

Well said!!!

DEMO!DEMO!DEMO!
 

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I agree completely. The purpose of a demo is to snare those on the fence after release. A demo available before release would cause those, who definitely would preorder, to test the game before purchase leading many to make a decision not to purchase.

That and all these juicy pre-order bonuses through Steam and such will also force people to decide to pre-order rather than wait for demo, play demo then ultimately have to pay for all these what are now free items. Very sneaky!!!!! But as you can see, I pre-ordered already so dont worry Pdox
 

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PDOX needs your money FIRST. Then, if you can't run it, they still keep it.

For a typical company, you could argue they should just try to grab your money and run.

paradox, more than any other games company that I know of, relies on fan loyalty. It is foolish for them to try dodgy business practices as it would erode one of their key commercial strength - their loyal customer base.

And they know they will make that customer base even happier by giving us the demo earlier :)
 

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I agree completely. The purpose of a demo is to snare those on the fence after release. A demo available before release would cause those, who definitely would preorder, to test the game before purchase leading many to make a decision not to purchase.

Or the opposite. A lot of people may be interested but afraid of the complexity, a demo will reassure them - or show them the game is not for them. If you can play most european countries for 20 years and then export your save tot he full game this can also hook people because they will want to continue on their campaign.

In any case, even if it would be a bad move from the editor POV (but did the CK2 demo lose them that many customers?), it's certainly the best for customers. Would you also advocate for not being able to try clothes before you buy them? Hell, they would make a lot more money by forcing people to buy several sizes in order to make sure at least one of them fits!

Note that I've pre-ordered anyway because I'm confident this is the strategy game I've been waiting for. I want the early demo just because I'm impatient like a child before Christmas when it comes to this game :)
 

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Or the opposite. A lot of people may be interested but afraid of the complexity, a demo will reassure them - or show them the game is not for them. If you can play most european countries for 20 years and then export your save tot he full game this can also hook people because they will want to continue on their campaign.

In any case, even if it would be a bad move from the editor POV (but did the CK2 demo lose them that many customers?), it's certainly the best for customers. Would you also advocate for not being able to try clothes before you buy them? Hell, they would make a lot more money by forcing people to buy several sizes in order to make sure at least one of them fits!

Note that I've pre-ordered anyway because I'm confident this is the strategy game I've been waiting for. I want the early demo just because I'm impatient like a child before Christmas when it comes to this game :)

Agree. And seems rather logic to me.
Paradox games are not COD. They scare people off. A demo is a good chance to let them try.
If you lure a customer into buying a game they won't like you get their money, right, but they won't buy DLCs and, most of all, they won't buy other similar games anymore.
 

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Its a mistake for PDOX to release a demo. They will only lose customers who do not like the game. Its better for them to make everyone pay the price and then uninstall if they do not like EU4. I uninstall the vast majority of video games I buy within 2 weeks. If they offered demos, I would have failed to buy all those games.

Really? Cos PDOx have released demos for EU3 and CKII, both of which you bought. So it seems even you aren't proof of your own statement, mate.
 

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Or the opposite. A lot of people may be interested but afraid of the complexity, a demo will reassure them - or show them the game is not for them. If you can play most european countries for 20 years and then export your save tot he full game this can also hook people because they will want to continue on their campaign.

Lets be bluntly honest, Paradox games don't sell on their Graphics. Showing us pretty pictures isn't really why most of us are here. It's the depth and re-playability that appeals. Gameplay, essentially. It's in Pdox's best interest to release demos that teach the interface, but hint at a deeper game. CK2 demo did exactly this!
 
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It was said in the stream last night that a demo is in the works, possibly up next week. Check the last segment of the stream and the questions then, it was asked about the Demo.
 

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How about they give access to the demo for anyone who preorders the game? Then it's neither good or bad business, just good customer service (which IS good business).

Kinda defeats the point of a demo, doesn't it? A demo customarily is something for people to try and be engaged iwth enough ot be tempted into purchasing.
 

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How about they give access to the demo for anyone who preorders the game? Then it's neither good or bad business, just good customer service (which IS good business).

It is likely that access will be open to everyone. The target audience for a demo is really for people who didn't preorder, so it would be silly to make it a preorder bonus.