Actually CK2 came out a week later, but that doesn't really matter
Demo release date?
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If it is anything like EU3 then I'd expect the next two Dev diaries to be AARs (they did Castile in EU3 so me thinks it could be someone like the Ottomans this time) and then a week before the game is released they'll release the demo.
Also on a side note to all those folks criticizing the Ottomans for not talking out the Ottomans in Quills hands-off game, just remember he's got the old version it it. He mentioned during his let's play that the new A.I. is a lot better at munching OPMs where you have cores.
Also on a side note to all those folks criticizing the Ottomans for not talking out the Ottomans in Quills hands-off game, just remember he's got the old version it it. He mentioned during his let's play that the new A.I. is a lot better at munching OPMs where you have cores.
Every time someone asked about a demo on their Facebook page they said : "We are working hard to get a demo as soon as possible."
So there should be a demo.
So there should be a demo.
My bet is the 2nd. That would be in the same timespand as the CkII demo release.
Also it's friday - dev diary day.
It's also an possibility that they present the demo in the livestream that will cover the last preorder DLC. That would be in the early days of august.
Also it's friday - dev diary day.
It's also an possibility that they present the demo in the livestream that will cover the last preorder DLC. That would be in the early days of august.
If I go to bed on the 2nd and there's no demo yet, I will cry under the sheet.
And my wife will think I'm an idiot, so please release the demo...
And my wife will think I'm an idiot, so please release the demo...
You are being too generalist. For PI it is good business:
The real target of the demo is those who have never played EU before and want to try before they buy. But with regards to all us fan-boys (not the real demo target) releasing the demo early is another way of Paradox showing they are nice guys... and PDS business model is, broadly speaking, keeping their fanboys happy so we buy all their games while also trying to reach a wider market. Releasing the demo early won't have much effect on the wider market as they won't be desperately hanging out for the release date like everyone on this forum.
So early demo = happy fan boys = loads of people gleefully buys PDS stuff for years to come = good for business...
... I guess its kind of like soma?
Paradox have always done demos before launch why would they change that now?
how dare you say suchs things!!! And you are a dane too, you are a disgrace to the viking blood
Now imagine you can only play demo if you didn´t preorder already. :ninja:
It isn't though - I would have linked an excellent video on the subject, but I can't find it for the life of me. I could have sworn it was on the Escapist website. :angry:
I think I know what video you're referring to. A demo is bad business if it's a bad demo. Which can happen either because the game itself is bad, or because said demo isn't representative of the full game. But I doubt a Paradox demo couldn't be representative of the final game, since it would basically be the final game with a playable countries restriction and a time limit.
A demo could be bad for business too if it's so good that people keep playing it instead of the full game, but I don't think anyone would be satisfied with a 20 year long campaign for example.
The last case would be when the demo is good, but a lot of people who play it realise they actually don't like the game and thus don't buy it. But the opposite also happens (people try the demo and like it although they weren't planning to buy the game beforehand). Do the two phenomenons cancel each other out? That's open for debate. But purposely giving as little information as possible about the game in the hope that ignorant consumers will buy it definitely isn't right, even though it could be good for business (but it might even give a bad image of your company in the long term). But at that point, one could say that making the game at all is bad for business, and that the developers should rather sell pre-orders with fake promises and run away with the money instead of spending it on development costs.
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Is it perhaps this article good sir?
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/122056-Game-Dev-Claims-Demos-Hurt-Game-Sales
Just read it, even if I didn't watch the video. Quite interesting, but I don't believe Schell Games business policies may be the same as Paradox ones.
Paradox is clearly aiming at adults or late teenagers, someting like more than 14 or even 16 year-old gamers (I know some gamers here are something like 13 years old, but I suspect they're not very numerous).
When looking at Schell games, I see MMO games, educational games (so sold to colleges or schools, for example), children games (Disney or Pixar universes), and a few of these games that look like those I receive freely on each new computer I buy and I suspect nobody ever buy.
So, where is the surpize that they can't sell their games when the demo has been played? Children often need to change of game or activity very rapidly (in little schools, I think that activities must be renewed every 15 to 30 minutes!).
I don't think pupils or students would buy a game about HIV quite often for leisure.
MMO all look the same and very few are remarkable enough to be worth some investment--and that's the same for such games as Call of Duty, Assassins Creed or car races, and was the same about fighting games like Tekken or arcade games such as Mario or Sonic, back in the 90's.
On the contrary, Paradox games aim two types of gamers:
- Veterans, who know they may precommand and enjoy such a game as EU4, because they know what they'll find in. Demo is unecessary for them, even if they're impatient enough to ask such a thing before the final release.
- And possible new players, who quite randomly watch a trailer, find a demo, try it, and may (I well said "may"!) think after that "I really wonder how this would have turned if I could have play more than 20 years. I should try to develop my economy, to have more and better armies, that would permit to screw up this bastard who tried to conquer my Southern provinces!"
Once again I'll speak about cookery as a comparison (yeah, still French!). If an industrial cheese maker allows me to taste his new cheese in a supermarket, I'll generaly think "Okay, that's not bad, I may buy one when I'll think about".
When I taste a traditionnal cheese in a little market on the church place of some village, somewhere in French countryside, I'll be must more tempted to buy this cheese, and even some other ones, because "Yeah, wow! That's real good! Would be real fine with such or such wine".
Evidently, I may be very disappointed by a traditional cheese, and won't buy it in that case. But, seriously, I believe EU4 would be much more easily compared to a real good traditional cheese than a bad or industrial one.
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Soon...Soon. I wonder what the limitations will be on the demo, I remember the EU3 demo was basically limited to any of the Western European nations.