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PUs should work as vassalizations not annexations. Because in practice that's what you get now. Correct me if I'm wrong but even the Kalmar union did not include territorial changes and Vasa didn't have to pop-up as rebel so to speak and take provinces to be independant.

Instead they should be like an advanced vassalization where you can exert more power over the vassal. And they should last until the uniting ruler's death right?
 
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How about the battles now, is the ping pong (7th battle of Gibraltar :rolleyes: ) over now.

I realise this was changed for 3.2, but i did not play it yet.
 

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Why is a PU with England worth 20 WS, while vassalisation more than 200? It's basically the same thing.

ehmm.. no?

Union = same monarch and allied.. vassalization = independence gone.
 

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Well, sure, you don't pay the senior partner gold, but you still can't spread (as in conquer provinces for yourself) or declare war on your own. (Or has this been changed?) I haven't yet arrived home to try it myself, but if all these reports are not something rare, I really do think the public will cry for a nerf
 

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First impression: War exhaustion is a bitch, almost more so than in MM. The scenario probably also has a lot to do with it, but as Austria its impossible to avoid a two front war even if militarily superior. That means I get loads of WE before being able to reconquer the one front while finishing off the other front. Peace is of course important, but the ruler is so crappy militarily the WE pratically doesn't move in some months peace. And then... France declares war with 17,5 WE. GG.

(Tried this more times with the same result)

I'll try England next I think, hopefully the AI isn't so trigger happy here (and one single foucsed large war is better than multiple medium wars).
 

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Have the chances of inheriting been increased?

not from a union..

i personally don't mind getting into a union for a monarch or two with another country.. its a period of fun :9
 

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not from a union..

i personally don't mind getting into a union for a monarch or two with another country.. its a period of fun :9

Absolutely it is, but there should be a pretty good chance for it to be broken, if its going to be kept just by good relations its going to be a big exploit... maybe some mechanism to keep relations down, or break it regardless of relations most of the time?
 

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Louis XII O'Donnel ascended to the throne of France. My impressions are mixed. I'd post it in the strange screenshots but there was a CTD and I forgot to turn the autosave on.
 

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Erm, started a game as England...

...and the heir listed is wrong. Arthur Tudor should be the heir to the English throne until 1502 when he died and Henry became heir.

*shrug*

Other than that, it looks nifty ya'll.
 

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Does anyone else get a crash when trying to click that "History" thingamabob above the HRE/Papacy buttons?

Nice Demo, apart from that ;)
 

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PUs should work as vassalizations not annexations. Because in practice that's what you get now. Correct me if I'm wrong but even the Kalmar union did not include territorial changes and Vasa didn't have to pop-up as rebel so to speak and take provinces to be independant.

Instead they should be like an advanced vassalization where you can exert more power over the vassal. And they should last until the uniting ruler's death right?

The Kalmar Union made Norway a province of Denmark for 400 years. And when we broke free, we lost every Norwegian province not part of Norway proper.