Defenestration!?

[Xaster]

I've got a quick question after a quick search in the forums gave no result: I was playing as Austria after the defenestration event happened I thought "Well, no problems, I'll attack ASAP with the Broken PU casus belli" but... surprise: The casus belli was given to Bohemia!? I'm a bit confused, is that normal?

 

[Apolojuice]

The things I do for love.

 

[Rinsukaze]

The only info I found about the event is this. In the results of the event they only say that the PU is broken, nothing about the CB. Maybe if someone has the event txt at hand...

 

[Xaster]

The only info I found about the event is this. In the results of the event they only say that the PU is broken, nothing about the CB. Maybe if someone has the event txt at hand...

Well, I'm not a genius with the txt, but I tried to take a look, and It doesn't seem to say nothing about it. It was just a bit strange seeing the junior partner getting the CB

 

[atwix]

defenestration. learned a new english word

 

[bbqftw]

its ok, you as austria get a mission to PU bohemia.. eventually. "Bohema must accept Austrian overlordship" or something

 

[dolphin_boy]

defenestration. learned a new english word

One of my favs as well, comes from the german word for window, fenster

https://translate.google.com/?ie=UTF-8&hl=en&client=tw-ob#auto/de/window

You could render it(poorly) as de-windowing...ie, throw someone out a window. such a polite way to put it.

 

[Assalander]

Or it could have been borrowed directly from french, like many english words

 

[Powder hound]

Same thing happened to Marshal Berthier, with a more terminal result!

 

[atwix]

(the French inventing a word for "being thrown out of a window" sounds about right.

but in reality, the term likely originates from fenestra (latin for window)

 

[Sunspawn]

Why not give the royal letter btw?

 

[Trin Tragula]

I've got a quick question after a quick search in the forums gave no result: I was playing as Austria after the defenestration event happened I thought "Well, no problems, I'll attack ASAP with the Broken PU casus belli" but... surprise: The casus belli was given to Bohemia!? I'm a bit confused, is that normal?

That's indeed not right. This resulted in some pretty weird monarchs for Bohemia and Austria after the event too.
Thanks for reporting, This will be fixed in a future patch.

 

[zerosius]

One of my favs as well, comes from the german word for window, fenster

https://translate.google.com/?ie=UTF-8&hl=en&client=tw-ob#auto/de/window

You could render it(poorly) as de-windowing...ie, throw someone out a window. such a polite way to put it.

Actually it derives from the latin word "fenestra", which means window or opportunity.
But the German word "Fenster" is most likely in turn derived from that of course.

 

[Comes Imperii]

Actually it derives from the latin word "fenestra", which means window or opportunity.
But the German word "Fenster" is most likely in turn derived from that of course.

Indeed, however I cannot see how fenestra could mean oppurtunity in Latin since there already was 'occasio' and the Romans were quite concrete in terms, if something was an object it was unlikely to signify something else At most it could mean access, way.

 

[zerosius]

Indeed, however I cannot see how fenestra could mean oppurtunity in Latin since there already was 'occasio' and the Romans were quite concrete in terms, if something was an object it was unlikely to signify something else At most it could mean access, way.

You are right there, i just learned it this way back in high school In German we translated it to either "Fenster" (window) or "Gelegenheit", which i just translated to opportunity

 

[grommile]

Indeed, however I cannot see how fenestra could mean oppurtunity in Latin since there already was 'occasio' and the Romans were quite concrete in terms, if something was an object it was unlikely to signify something else

Which Latin? The literary form referred to as Classical Latin? The later literary form referred to as Late Latin? One of the various regional (and time-varying) colloquial dialects known collectively as Vulgar Latin?

 

[Sabra]

Defenstration is kinda historic habit in my country. There are even some jokes in popular culture about them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defenestrations_of_Prague

 

[Comes Imperii]

Which Latin? The literary form referred to as Classical Latin? The later literary form referred to as Late Latin? One of the various regional (and time-varying) colloquial dialects known collectively as Vulgar Latin?

Nice point, I should have clarified. I meant Classical Latin, and then Renaissance Latin which looked back to Classical Latin.

 

[_B_art.cz]

One of my favs as well, comes from the german word for window, fenster

https://translate.google.com/?ie=UTF-8&hl=en&client=tw-ob#auto/de/window

You could render it(poorly) as de-windowing...ie, throw someone out a window. such a polite way to put it.

Do you mean when you change from Windows to Linux?

 

[BFTeixeira]

Defenstration is kinda historic habit in my country. There are even some jokes in popular culture about them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defenestrations_of_Prague

Thought that this was only a thing in Portugal. Nice to learn that it has a meaning all over europe!

In Portugal's case (from wikipedia):
Miguel de Vasconcelos (or Vasconcellos) e Brito (c. 1590 - Lisbon, 1 December 1640; Portuguese pronunciation: [miˈɡɛɫ dɨ vaʃkõˈsɛluʃ]) was the lastSecretary of State (Prime Minister) of the Kingdom of Portugal, during thePhilippine Dynasty, in which both kingdoms of Portugal and Spain remained separated but united by the same king and foreign policy.

He was in office from 1635 to 1640, serving under Margarida of Savoy, Vicereine of Portugal, the Duchess of Mantua, a cousin of King Philip III.

He was probably the most hated collaborator with the Spanish, considered a traitor during the last years of the Philippine Dynasty, especially after the revolts of 1637. On the morning of 1 December 1640, a group of Portuguese noblemen who wanted to restore full independence started a revolution, immediately supported by the people of Lisbon. After entering the palace, the conspirators sought Miguel Vasconcelos, but saw no sign of him. They would eventually find Miguel de Vasconcelos hidden in a closet with a gun. His movements within the small closet and the rustling of papers inside gave away his position. He was shot to death and defenestrated, leaving his corpse to the angry public.