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I don't know the exact formulas, but I think that each country that borders the rebel province has an equal chance of getting the province. Furthermore, I don't think by having more of your provinces bordering does it increase your chances. Example: If you have one province bordering the rebel province, you get an equal chance with the country that has three provinces bordering. There might be a bonus for the country that has a shield on the rebel province, though. I'm not 100% positive on all of this, so maybe someone can give us more details.
Cores, culture, and religion all play a part, IIRC. Though as Russia, I once got a Confucian, Han, non-core province by defection... but I think that was because there was nobody else to defect to.
Of course, I'm not completely positive either...
Of course, I'm not completely positive either...
I think that for example: You conquer a province from France, when it defects, i think it will defect to France
Unless, of course, the province happens to be the reformist Schwyz, which France recently took from Helvetia.
Steele
Steele
If you take a province from france and it defects it'll form french catholics most of the time 
The only thing I know is that revolt.txt plays a part. This is why Malta keeps defecting to the Knights at least.
And unless an island is defined as a revolter in revolt.txt islands will NEVER defect to anyone, just stay rebel-controlled.Nikolai II said:
Recently I've seen Brabant, Flanders, Zeeland, Luxembourg AND Lorraine revolt when a civil war struck France. They all ended up defecting to Cologne, weirdest thing I've ever seen... :rofl:
Btw, France got beaten up so bad, you won't believe it...Brittany, Guyenne, Bourbonnais, Provence, Auvergne and Orleanais all formed...France was left with Ile de France, Gascogne and Normandie... :wacko:
Btw, France got beaten up so bad, you won't believe it...Brittany, Guyenne, Bourbonnais, Provence, Auvergne and Orleanais all formed...France was left with Ile de France, Gascogne and Normandie... :wacko:
Even more fun if one of the revolters get Il de France, then you end up with the french capital in North America. (If they own a prov. there off course)Tinus said:
Judas Maccabeus said:
I've noticed quite a few times when a province that "logically" should defect to me -- same culture and religion -- defects to someone else. But, I've also seen cases when a province that really shouldn't be mine deffected to the small same-culture minor rather than to me, so I may just be remembering cases where I'd wanted a defection, and ignoring those cases where the defection was to me.
Yeah, like you, I've enjoyed a few defections where I'm the only person whom the provinces can defect to. I had one case where I'd had a single Canadian province, had a rebelion during a time of war. After taking over my province, the rebels walked all over Canada since no one had bothered building forts yet. At the end of the war, I sent troops over to take my province back from the rebels, and then found myself the happy inheritor of much of British and French North America; I did better in peace than I'd done in war. :wacko:
Alexandre
Nikolai II said:
I thought that was only used for revolters. Does it also "direct" defections? It still doesn't help in identifying how provinces defect when there are no approriate countries in the neighborhood.
Alexandre
Malta becomes the Knights capital as a part of a Spanish event (or maybe an event for whoever owns Malta). I think it fires if/when Rhodes is annexed.
How can France's capital end up in North America?
How can France's capital end up in North America?
If a country loses its capital because of revolts, the capital will move to the lowest-ID province owned by that country, which tends to be in North America. I believe this has been fixed in one of the recent betas, though.Troggle said:
I once saw Ionia, which was Greek, Orthodox, and owned by Venice, defect to the Sunni Ottomans rather than Orthodox Byzantium. It seems to me that defections are more or less random.
Yeah I always thought that was kinda strange. Especially when it's the same religion, same culture and a core province. I've had that happen numerous times. I would think it would go in order of religion, culture and than core.
Alexandre said:
I don't know if it directs anything else, all I know is that the Knights, despite being alive, can get Malta to defect to them centuries before the 'Cede Malta to the Order' event. And the only possible cause I can imagine is that Malta is in the 'minimum' list.
I guess it could be tested by adding more islands to minimum and see what happens.
(Gotland to Sweden and Denmark should perhaps be the easiest test of if it then can defect to either)
For a province to defect to a given country, it must either border it or be its core province.Nikolai II said:
Since Malta is an island (and doesn't border any country), if it defects it can only defect to KNI.
As England with colonies on the Indian coastal provinces, I benefited from several revolts in the Indian interior - for some reason these rebels preferred rule from London to Hyderabad Dead cool, though. I pretended my local operatives had pulled off a coup.
Dead cool, though. I pretended my local operatives had pulled off a coup.
robin74 said:
But core doesn't work, or else Gotland would be able to defect to Denmark and Cyprus (after revolter enddate) to the Ottomans.
I once had Calais defecting from England to me (Flanders) instead it could have defected to France, don't seems logic to me.