Defeat After Deceit

[BurningEGO]

If that is the case you most probably crashed when he sent you a peace proposal.

 

[Aladar]

All i can say is that i was said SEVERAL times that people should turn off hamachi, as i being the only one that needed it last, had fixed my router problem. This was said in V-net after we had joined the host and all were present.

Concerning edits i need the GM's, to inform me if anyone should not get the ontime cookie, and what edits you deem necessary for Poland, BB and Denmark.

I'll look into the SP thing and do as someone said with not pressing enter.

 

[admiral drake]

All i can say is that i was said SEVERAL times that people should turn off hamachi, as i being the only one that needed it last, had fixed my router problem. This was said in V-net after we had joined the host and all were present.
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you sayd it several times yet never pay attention yourself
you where not the only 1 having issues without hamachi iirc, hal was very unstable till we switched to hamachi it improved alot after that

and martin needed hamachi to atlest before this session

 

[unmerged(18425)]

I'll look into the SP thing and do as someone said with not pressing enter.

Don't do it for England though. There will be an event firing for England (gives free manu and deflation) that hasn't triggered yet.

I understand we all keep using hamachi next session, for martmol?

 

[unmerged(18425)]

A question: do we have any rules about trading posts? Is it allowed to block coast with them? I ask because England builded them beetwen my colony in Delware and lands I toke from natives and in this way splited my territories and cut me from the sea. I really don't like it.

It's not very sportive, but why should it be forbidden?

To not detoriate relations between England and Poland, I have send an offer to buy your three colonies there instead.

 

[Tonioz]

most english tps at seacost were converted to colonies to avoid losing at burning at war. And rest are on the way to do it.

 

[HALNY (HAL)]

It's not very sportive, but why should it be forbidden?

To not detoriate relations between England and Poland, I have send an offer to buy your three colonies there instead.

I had many occasions to block all coast, but I start to build up one colony and than wanted to go for land around, as it should have been done.

Anyway I'm sure we can find some compromise in NA especially when I just want south part of coast to have connection beetwen my lands and sea.

 

[Tonioz]

south shore is free still. Though i wonder why England will tolerate Poland on their historical lands.

 

[unmerged(49459)]

south shore is free still. Though i wonder why England will tolerate Poland on their historical lands.

I cannot see any reason to follow any historical events, more than the 'events' of game itself.

 

[Tonioz]

the event happened to England:

"it all belongs to Mother Queen" :rofl:

 

[unmerged(49459)]

the event happened to England:

"it all belongs to Mother Queen" :rofl:

It is, Long Live a Queen! ...-I will be like Canada, maybe queen and something... but We rule here!

 

[Mats_SX]

If the French had any hope of breaking through the Danish fleet in time, Bra should be left with Wendet. I think Ampo, Max and Kanth are objective enough to determine that, but if needed I'll take a closer look later on. Otherwise, all should certainly go to DK, and MA should be edited out.

I do insist that I have the greatest navy in the world. But there seem to be enough edit-paranoia as it is. My final offer is;

BBurg keeps Wendat. It is 1200 pop and borders the rest of BB colonies.
Denmark gets Nipigon, Nipissing, Potawatomi, Matouweskarini and Huron.
MA edited out.

I think it is generous enough.

 

[Mats_SX]

Denmark and Brandenburg have reached a final agreement:

Wendat and Potawatomi will be kept to BBurg.
Nipissing, Nipigon, Huron and Matouweskarini will be ceded to Denmark.
The MA will be edited out.
BBurg will pay 100 ducats to Denmark.

Kanth will post to confirm.

 

[unmerged(49459)]

Denmark and Brandenburg have reached a final agreement:

Wendat and Potawatomi will be kept to BBurg.
Nipissing, Nipigon, Huron and Matouweskarini will be ceded to Denmark.
The MA will be edited out.
BBurg will pay 100 ducats to Denmark.

Kanth will post to confirm.

agree

 

[HALNY (HAL)]

south shore is free still. Though i wonder why England will tolerate Poland on their historical lands.

Pfff, and why they tolerate Denmark? If we want thigns "historical" Denmark should surrender to Sweden not colonise NA. Political fiction of XVI century is not very wise explination for political moves
Beside there were Poles in Columbus expedition and many people from Poland joined first groups of dutch/english colonists

 

[BurningEGO]

Well denmark did colonize historically. Some stuff in the caribean and in India if memory serve... And hey, remember, that the vikings, were the first to reach america! I remember hearing that the natives in Newfoundland once the portuguese arived there were tall, white and blond.

 

[Ampoliros]

Compact of Venice​

The Doge of Venice and the King of France have convened and engaged in extensive, fruitful talks. In consequence a territory swap has been agreed upon.
France sells Piemonte and Nice to Venice which in return sells Corsica to France.

Also France and Venice enter into a Pact of Nonaggression valid till January 1620.

Signed,
Prime Minister Ampoliros II.
(On behalf of King Charles IX of France)

 

[King John]

Denmark and Brandenburg have reached a final agreement:

Wendat and Potawatomi will be kept to BBurg.
Nipissing, Nipigon, Huron and Matouweskarini will be ceded to Denmark.
The MA will be edited out.
BBurg will pay 100 ducats to Denmark.

Kanth will post to confirm.

I was going to rule that all these colonies should go to Denmark, but ok.



My ruling on Brandenburg is that it gets the 4.7 deflation and has its lag loans edited out.


About Poland, Hal, there was one battle that should've gone your way, the one where I had 30k cav with vor facing off 30k cav and 20k inf with tar. I think this was the one where I killed Tarnowski. You must've had the display problem here, which was very unfortunate. But all the subsequent battles, despite the CRT, made sense because you lacked any leaders, while I had Vorotinski and plenty of other mid-range ones, who always gave me a +2 or +3 modifier in the battles we fought. Enough to offset your CRT and morale.
Luck had something to do with them as well, but nothing out of scale.

Regarding Polish edits, I don't really want to go down the road of having to fix every lag loan. I got a couple lag loans myself, they cost me some money, but I figure quite a few have had to deal with that. Brandenburg I feel is a special case, because it is so small and vulnerable, the loans would've ruined its economy, and I think lag loans are a ridiculous reason for such an interesting country as Brandenburg to be snuffed out.

Perhaps something could be done to compensate the technical problems you were having. I would probably say no, but I'm not in a very credible position to rule on it. Ampo will have to decide whether Poland should get something.

 

[HALNY (HAL)]

About Poland, Hal, there was one battle that should've gone your way, the one where I had 30k cav with vor facing off 30k cav and 20k inf with tar. I think this was the one where I killed Tarnowski. You must've had the display problem here, which was very unfortunate. But all the subsequent battles, despite the CRT, made sense because you lacked any leaders, while I had Vorotinski and plenty of other mid-range ones, who always gave me a +2 or +3 modifier in the battles we fought. Enough to offset your CRT and morale.
Luck had something to do with them as well, but nothing out of scale.

You are right, but you are speaking about second phase of war when I did not have Tarnowski, when I mean battles with Tarnowski - he lost almost all of them. I will never belive it was noraml, it had to be that hamachi bug.

Regarding Polish edits, I don't really want to go down the road of having to fix every lag loan. I got a couple lag loans myself, they cost me some money, but I figure quite a few have had to deal with that. Brandenburg I feel is a special case, because it is so small and vulnerable, the loans would've ruined its economy, and I think lag loans are a ridiculous reason for such an interesting country as Brandenburg to be snuffed out.

Perhaps something could be done to compensate the technical problems you were having. I would probably say no, but I'm not in a very credible position to rule on it. Ampo will have to decide whether Poland should get something.

I will concur whatever GM decide. If I start whining too much people will disrespect The Lion

 

[Mats_SX]

Pfff, and why they tolerate Denmark? If we want thigns "historical" Denmark should surrender to Sweden not colonise NA. Political fiction of XVI century is not very wise explination for political moves

True. But any colonial area (heck, any area) is to be claimed by a player, him being there or not. I claimed the Huron area. BBurg couldn't care less and took it, so I felt it right to take it back. England (apparently, I don't know) has claimed the area that the real England had. So, they've got company there. How to solve them? Well, they could take them militarily. Or they could make deals. And you know, while deals may be broken, they pretty much works by "first come, first served".