Defeat After Deceit

[unmerged(18425)]

i consider everything added by watk guy that isn't the map a bug , he couldn't be in his sane mind when he added that religion bonus ect

That's why we either should play with an own watk modded mod (instead of just messing with the save as I did last week) or switch to vanilla. We will now still play this campaign with an unbalanced religion file, imperfect wealth distribution and silly events.

 

[Aladar]

It isnt a bug drake, that stuff has been around since WATK is out. WATK includes extra events or simply modifies old ones. If, Venice for example, conquers north italy, he will get some nasty events granting him PERM RR in most of north italy.

Its life, its WATK (also protestantism is ungodly strong, lol).

Seriously? Where can i see this?

 

[Aladar]

That's why we either should play with an own watk modded mod (instead of just messing with the save as I did last week) or switch to vanilla. We will now still play this campaign with an unbalanced religion file, imperfect wealth distribution and silly events.

Which makes it all the more fun. We all played vanilla to our deaths, no new surprises there. I'm certain that the spicy/chinaware to fish edit in itself will change many things.

The best thing about watk is the map, but i don't mind extra events. We could ofcourse search the eventfiles of all playernations, compare them to the vanilla and see if something should be changed. Perhaps even include some from the AGC-EPP if the gm's like.

Should this be done, i would suggest this sunday (or tonight) as i'll be drunk the rest of the weekend. I would be most willing to help in this work, thou i don't always have the insight of editing events. Copy/pasta will not always do the trick, as events numbers might double.

 

[Ampoliros]

It isnt a bug drake, that stuff has been around since WATK is out. WATK includes extra events or simply modifies old ones. If, Venice for example, conquers north italy, he will get some nasty events granting him PERM RR in most of north italy.

Eh? This is news for me. I played Venice in QfC IV (WatK Scenario) and there were no such events - even after I had conquered all of Northern Italy.

Are you sure about this? If so we should definitely sleep this event...

 

[BurningEGO]

Eh? This is news for me. I played Venice in QfC IV (WatK Scenario) and there were no such events - even after I had conquered all of Northern Italy.

Are you sure about this? If so we should definitely sleep this event...

#Independant city event - Genua
event = {
id = 270005
trigger = {
NOT = { exists = GEN }
NOT = { domestic = { type = centralization value = 8 }}
NOT = { year = 1700 }
}
random = yes
province = 403
name = "The citizens of Genua request autonomy"
desc = "Sire, the citizens of Genua request rights of autonomy. What shall we do?"
style = 1

action_a ={
name = "Deny it."
command = { type = provincemanpower which = 403 value = -1 }
command = { type = population which = 403 value = -5000 }
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
command = { type = revolt which = 403 }
command = { type = revolt which = 403 }
command = { type = revolt which = 403 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 403 value = 1 } #Permanent!
}
action_b ={
name = "Grant it."
command = { type = independence which = GEN }
command = { type = badboy value = -1 }
}
}

Somehow Kasperus, or whoever made the events decided to put these on the random events, but they do happen to venice. And they can happen more then once.

I did suffer once from such events but there is one thing i cannot understand - why do they happen specifically to Venice, if they do not have any country TAG.

i consider everything added by watk guy that isn't the map a bug

Even the map is bugged. You forgot about the fleets trying to reach the north pole?

 

[unmerged(18425)]

Which makes it all the more fun. We all played vanilla to our deaths, no new surprises there.

I understand this is true for you, but don't forget that a lot of others have played WATK also to the death. There aren't really surprises anymore.

 

[unmerged(18425)]

Eh? This is news for me. I played Venice in QfC IV (WatK Scenario) and there were no such events - even after I had conquered all of Northern Italy.

Are you sure about this? If so we should definitely sleep this event...

The event can be avoided by going CEN, but I agree it should be slept.

 

[Ampoliros]

I understand this is true for you, but don't forget that a lot of others have played WATK also to the death. There aren't really surprises anymore.

Well the downgrade of trade should change the dynamics of our campaign quite some bit. I expect gold to become far more important...

I will be available this weekend to help edit the remaining stuff. Would someone of the Edit-Experts give us a hand, though? o

 

[HALNY (HAL)]

Hello, QfCV seems to be dead, so I decided I will join your game. If there is still some place of course. Is there?

 

[unmerged(18425)]

IMO HAL should definitely be given a player spot over BGW for an important country like Spain, who has proven to be highly unreliable in the past.

The four to six unmissable majors should only be given to players who have proved they are reliable. Of course, BGW in a lesser nation like Netherlands or something is fine with me.

 

[HALNY (HAL)]

IMO HAL should *definitely* be given a player spot over BGW for an important country like Spain, who has proven to be highly unreliable in the past.

The four to six unmissable majors should only be given to players who have proved they are reliable.

HAL thanks FAL But I don't want to throw out anyone. Will take whatever you decide.

 

[Van Engel]

IMO HAL should definitely be given a player spot over BGW for an important country like Spain, who has proven to be highly unreliable in the past.

The four to six unmissable majors should only be given to players who have proved they are reliable. Of course, BGW in a lesser nation like Netherlands or something is fine with me.

I would agree with this... o

 

[Mats_SX]

Well the downgrade of trade should change the dynamics of our campaign quite some bit. I expect gold to become far more important...

I will be available this weekend to help edit the remaining stuff. Would someone of the Edit-Experts give us a hand, though? o

Will the Danish event be edited to add German culture or not? Or is it still discussionable?

 

[unmerged(49459)]

If there is one more free slot in this game I would be very interested to play. I assume that most (not all I hope) countries are filled but still, I can play any country.

 

[unmerged(58575)]

I remember a game with Spain where I got all these "Tuscany wants independence" and permanent 1 RR as you said... it ended up with me releasing them for a while to later annex them again... 5% RR was too much...

 

[Ampoliros]

Hello, QfCV seems to be dead, so I decided I will join your game. If there is still some place of course. Is there?

Greetings HAL.
Welcome aboard. Would it be okay for you to take over NL for now (and if I know Murphy´s Law quite possibly someone will drop after or during session 1).

Anyways it´s wonderful to have you.

 

[Ampoliros]

If there is one more free slot in this game I would be very interested to play. I assume that most (not all I hope) countries are filled but still, I can play any country.

Hello Kanth.

As of now our roster is complete but if it were okay with you I would sign you up as sub for now and you´d of course be involved if and when some perm dropps.

 

[Ampoliros]

Will the Danish event be edited to add German culture or not? Or is it still discussionable?

It will be edited - this weekend.

 

[Mats_SX]

It will be edited - this weekend.

Poifect.

 

[unmerged(49459)]

Hello Kanth.

As of now our roster is complete but if it were okay with you I would sign you up as sub for now and you´d of course be involved if and when some perm dropps.

Fine by me, knowing reality I'm sure that I wont wait long for perm slot As for now I can be sub, it's also a lot of fun.