• We have updated our Community Code of Conduct. Please read through the new rules for the forum that are an integral part of Paradox Interactive’s User Agreement.

kodiak491

First Lieutenant
33 Badges
Jan 18, 2003
286
9
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Field Marshal
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Europa Universalis IV: Golden Century
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Arsenal of Democracy
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • 500k Club
  • Victoria 2
  • Semper Fi
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Iron Cross
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Darkest Hour
  • Hearts of Iron II: Armageddon
I love the new decision system but, like many I had to actually read through the event files to figure out how to activate certain decisions. The Anschluss in particular causes confusion since it doesnt even show up unless you use the anti-comintern pact event, something many players will not do when they read that it causes them to lose their cores on Trento and Bolzano. Hear are my 3 suggestions;

1. Plain Language Advice
I suggest that decisions which are a prerequisite for other decisions simply say so in plain language in the decision text. This text could be bolded or otherwise highlighted for clarity.

2. Earlier Decision Buttons
I cannot tell from the event files how the system determines when to make decisions viewable by the player. Since many pop up before their requirements are met it would seem simple to change some to pop up much earlier so the player has more advance notice of how to prepare.

3. Plain language Decision Tooltips
This one might be much harder to implement since I don't know how much control you have over decision text, but it would be much easier for newer players to have a tooltip that is readable in plain language. For example instead of a tooltip that just lists the parameters of the event language (or, and, not) it could say something like the following text (using the anschluss as an example):

Requirements to activate:
+/- Germany must have at least 1 unit in each of the provinces bordering Austria (Landshut, Regensburg, Augsburg). In addition at least one of the following must be true;
+/- Germany owns Vienna
or
+/- Germany is at war with Austria and controls Vienna
or
+/- Germany is allied with Austria and Italy has signed the Anti Comintern Pact


I realize these suggestions would require considerable development work and may not be practical and they are made with respect to the developers. I have been modding HOI since HOI1 and, while I love it, I realize how difficult it can be. Especially the difference between producing a mod for yourself (tough enough) and one that is understandable and enjoyable for the entire community (much harder). Keep up the good work everyone.
 
Upvote 0

^_AC_^

Field Marshal
84 Badges
Feb 24, 2009
5.695
327
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Sengoku
  • Semper Fi
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Magicka
  • Leviathan: Warships
  • Knights of Pen and Paper +1 Edition
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • War of the Roses
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • The Showdown Effect
  • Warlock 2: The Exiled
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • 500k Club
  • Stellaris
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Prison Architect
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Imperator: Rome Sign Up
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Stellaris: Ancient Relics
  • Knights of Pen and Paper 2
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Surviving Mars
  • Cities: Skylines - Green Cities
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Stellaris: Megacorp
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Europa Universalis IV: Golden Century
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Imperator: Rome Deluxe Edition
2. Earlier Decision Buttons
I cannot tell from the event files how the system determines when to make decisions viewable by the player. Since many pop up before their requirements are met it would seem simple to change some to pop up much earlier so the player has more advance notice of how to prepare.
Quick answer: if all the conditions in decision = {} are met, the decision appears for the player. After that, if all the conditions in decision_trigger = {} are met, the decision can be taken. Trigger = {} is used by the AI, not the player.

We're working on this issue, but thanks for your post, it has been appreciated. :)
 

kodiak491

First Lieutenant
33 Badges
Jan 18, 2003
286
9
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Field Marshal
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Europa Universalis IV: Golden Century
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Arsenal of Democracy
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • 500k Club
  • Victoria 2
  • Semper Fi
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Iron Cross
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Darkest Hour
  • Hearts of Iron II: Armageddon
Thanks for the quick response and clarification. BTW, I am enjoying the game immensely, you should have charged a lot more.
 

MartinBG

Darkest Hour Developer
2 Badges
Nov 16, 2007
5.634
257
  • Hearts of Iron II: Beta
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
AC is correct that we're working on the issue as it seems many are confused by the prerequisites tool-tip format. Luckily all that we need is already implemented in the engine. :D
Decisions can use a decision only text (decison_text = "....." line into an even/decision) displayed on the tool-tip instead of the event text and we're going to add some nice descriptions to most confusing decisions.
 

Amun Nefer

Captain
58 Badges
Nov 13, 2009
366
0
  • Arsenal of Democracy
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Semper Fi
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Iron Cross
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • For the Motherland
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Darkest Hour
  • Hearts of Iron Anthology
  • Hearts of Iron II: Armageddon
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Deus Vult
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Surviving Mars: First Colony Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • 500k Club
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Surviving Mars
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Rome: Vae Victis
  • Victoria 2
  • Supreme Ruler 2020
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Europa Universalis IV: Golden Century
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
I can't even see the pre-reqs on mine. :( It's May 1938 and Austria is still independent and I don't know what the pre-reqs are to fix that. :(
 

xtfoster

Field Marshal
47 Badges
Feb 8, 2006
5.865
2.194
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • BATTLETECH - Digital Deluxe Edition
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Shadowrun Returns
  • Shadowrun: Dragonfall
  • Shadowrun: Hong Kong
  • BATTLETECH: Flashpoint
  • Stellaris: Megacorp
  • Age of Wonders III
  • Stellaris: Ancient Relics
  • BATTLETECH: Season pass
  • Age of Wonders: Planetfall Sign Up
  • BATTLETECH: Heavy Metal
  • Hearts of Iron IV: La Resistance
  • Stellaris: Federations
  • Battle for Bosporus
  • Stellaris: Nemesis
  • Victoria 3 Sign Up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: By Blood Alone
  • Hearts of Iron IV: No Step Back
  • Stellaris
  • Deus Vult
  • Europa Universalis III
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Majesty 2
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Semper Fi
  • Supreme Ruler 2020
  • 500k Club
  • Hearts of Iron II: Beta
  • Hearts of Iron II: Armageddon
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • BATTLETECH
  • Surviving Mars
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
Why does Austria have to be allied. It wasn't in real life.

Is THAT the pre-req?! As this fellow says that wasn't the RL case, how is one supposed to guess that?
It doesn't. There are 3 ways to get this. (PS: You don't need the Anti-Commintern Pact, this is a condition for the AI only).
1) Use the diplomatic "Demand Territory" function to get them to join.
2) Get them to ally with you.
3) Invade them and occupy Vienna.
 

Amun Nefer

Captain
58 Badges
Nov 13, 2009
366
0
  • Arsenal of Democracy
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Semper Fi
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Iron Cross
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • For the Motherland
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Darkest Hour
  • Hearts of Iron Anthology
  • Hearts of Iron II: Armageddon
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Deus Vult
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Surviving Mars: First Colony Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • 500k Club
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Surviving Mars
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Rome: Vae Victis
  • Victoria 2
  • Supreme Ruler 2020
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Europa Universalis IV: Golden Century
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
Well, this is what I get when I see that decision. I don't like doing stuff like that outside events as it makes it seem dull to me.

Also, is it normal for the loading bar to look like this? A little OT I know, but I don't want to start a new topic unless it is. A quick yes or no will suffice. :)

Also, I disagree with your sig good sir, you are a 'Murican, deal with it. :p
 

Amun Nefer

Captain
58 Badges
Nov 13, 2009
366
0
  • Arsenal of Democracy
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Semper Fi
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Iron Cross
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • For the Motherland
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Darkest Hour
  • Hearts of Iron Anthology
  • Hearts of Iron II: Armageddon
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Deus Vult
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Surviving Mars: First Colony Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • 500k Club
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Surviving Mars
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Rome: Vae Victis
  • Victoria 2
  • Supreme Ruler 2020
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Europa Universalis IV: Golden Century
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
Makes sense, but I expect perfection sir! I shall not buy a copy for my gf until this is fixed! (Just kidding, I'll switch it to the slightly lower one. Nice guess btw, I think it is 1377, but very good eye.)

I also want to say "derp" with regard to my earlier statement about the pre-reqs, as now, after reading the FAQs, I see I need to hover over the X. Sorry about. :p Maybe put a little note on the description saying "hover over X to see requirements" for fellows who don't bother to check the FAQs.