December 8th beta - Feedback thread - Includes updated extra-text!

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General feedback about the beta here, crash reports in the stickied thread. This beta is with high likelyhood the last beta before 1.05, so please let us know how it plays out. There is little room for changes before 1.05, but urgent issues, should there be any, can be fixed.

Happy crusading.

There are some problems with the extra_text.csv supplied within dec 8th beta, caused by mistake of yours truly. Therefore, download extra_text.csv from here and unpack it into your config folder.

EDIT: Ensure it's the 9th of Dec version.

 

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Changes to the exe but starting screen reporting june beta... can you confirm?

 

[Alexandre]

General feedback about the beta here, crash reports in the stickied thread. This beta is with high likelyhood the last beta before 1.05, so please let us know how it plays out. There is little room for changes before 1.05, but urgent issues, should there be any, can be fixed.

Happy crusading.

Can this patch be installed over the last one, or do we need a clean install?

Alexandre

 

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Changes to the exe but starting screen reporting june beta... can you confirm?

Apparently Johan forgot to update the timestamp, please bear with it.

Can this patch be installed over the last one, or do we need a clean install?

Well, I myself always apply on top of last beta. Clean install is of course safer and if you get problems with applying it on top of last one, you might consider clean install then.

 

[Riddermark]

Ok Ill prolly be hanged for this question but I need to ask - Since we all see that Johan actually got his hands on the exe even for a short period of time - is there any hope that these 2 bytes of code will be changed so that the muslims will start giving out titles ? and if no why

 

[LordLeto]

A ferocious what?

 

[Duuk]

- The AI will now pledge allegiance to the default duchy first if he is a count.

I love you, man.

 

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A ferocious what?

Yes, in the config's files (for the english entries only) the texts with a "," in it are now cutted after the commas.

And, as reported time ago, some trait descs have a ";" in the wrong place, resulting in halved descriptions (just in english, I suppose).

Apparently Johan forgot to update the timestamp, please bear with it.

Oh well, absolutely no problem... just to know if something wrong in my installation

 

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A ferocious what?

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I thought I had fixed that. Grr. I'll post a fixed version later today.

 

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Download fix to the event texts from the first post in this thread.

 

[Alexandre]

A ferocious what?

Personally, I like it -- it gives a feeling that the peasants are so terrified that they dare not speak its name.

Alexandre

P.S. when did you stop being the reason that the Il-Khanate is blue?

 

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i did install the updated 8 Dec extratext.csv file from this thread, but i still got this today:

 

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Trait Errors - First two posts only...after that it goes OT quickly.

1187 still fires for heretics/excommunicated and removes neither status.

There were still some events that had the pope worried about my sceptisism of my heretic beliefs...if anything he should be trying to win me over if i'm a sceptical of my heretic beliefs.

Crusader/Excommunicated still need to be made trait pairs since Excommunicated can be given via papal controller outside event structure and as both are titles given by the papacy, an excommunicated crusader is a walking impossibility.

Finally i still see heretics pop up in the papacy line. Events that kill off wrong pope should kill off successors as well, especially primary succesor so that hopefully they'll never see the heretic, female, muslim rise to the papacy.

 

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Brother Onion, thanks for pointing it out. I'll post a fixed one shortly and proceed then to shoot myself in shame (figuratively).

 

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Ok Ill prolly be hanged for this question but I need to ask - Since we all see that Johan actually got his hands on the exe even for a short period of time - is there any hope that these 2 bytes of code will be changed so that the muslims will start giving out titles ? and if no why

Probably for the same reason they don't want to see Mamelukes or any new dynasties appear in-game, save mongol hordes.

 

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New version of extra_text up now. *horribly embarrassed*

 

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Another engine bus, not all that important, but courtiers spawned by the engine can have opposing traits pairs.

 

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1187 still fires for heretics/excommunicated and removes neither status.

As it fires due to Zealousness, I'd say it shouldn't.

Crusader/Excommunicated still need to be made trait pairs since Excommunicated can be given via papal controller outside event structure and as both are titles given by the papacy, an excommunicated crusader is a walking impossibility.

Why an excommunicated crusader is a walking impossibility?

Finally i still see heretics pop up in the papacy line. Events that kill off wrong pope should kill off successors as well, especially primary succesor so that hopefully they'll never see the heretic, female, muslim rise to the papacy.

That could be done, but I'd prefer to wait until 1.05 is out.

 

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As it fires due to Zealousness, I'd say it shouldn't.

Shouldn't fire or shouldn't remove those statuses?

Why an excommunicated crusader is a walking impossibility?

Crusaders were champions of god in the mortal realm, sactioned by the church, to fight for God. Excommunicated were those removed from god on the mortal realm and not sactioned by the chruch. You can go on a crusade and be excommunicated, but being a crusader requires the sanction of the church.

That could be done, but I'd prefer to wait until 1.05 is out.

Ok...as long as we can see a 1.06 someday...

 

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Shouldn't fire or shouldn't remove those statuses?

Shouldn't remove. Or perhaps shouldn't fire, but that goes to the pile of "tweaks of trivial consequence - adress after 1.05".

Crusaders were champions of god in the mortal realm, sactioned by the church, to fight for God. Excommunicated were those removed from god on the mortal realm and not sactioned by the chruch. You can go on a crusade and be excommunicated, but being a crusader requires the sanction of the church.

I have always had the impression that becoming a crusader was mostly about setting out on the journey, ie, that you didn't need any official church permission to set out on a crusade. Are you sure you are not mixing up crusaders in general and members of knight orders?

Ok...as long as we can see a 1.06 someday...

Surely, there is much I want to work on still.