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Malibu Stacey

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Are you sure they left from a spouse dieing? Pretty sure this issue was resolved, make sure you are using the current patch and checksum.

However just so you know there are a few events, in this bug report that are likely the issue.

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?633318-Council-members-suddenly-vacate-their-posts

Also the bishop leaving council issue in your other thread is from another event as well. I am pretty sure this one is also reported as I remember doing the report, it could be that it was linked with another batch of very similar issues. If you'd like a link let me know and I can try and find it. :)
 

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Yes I'm playing with 1.08 with the correct checksum (via Steam).
It doesn't look like the spouse dying issue was fixed or if it was it's reappeared if it was in the 1.06 patch notes.
 

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Which DLC's are you using?

I can not reproduce this at all.

Do you a savegame where a spouse is about die or even directly after the councillor left?
 

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I had this happening to me with councillors of 100 relation as well. Though with the wife dying it probably doesnt have anything to do with the relationship to its liege.
Arguing that it might be event related for the councillor it would be good to get a message why he left the council position.
 

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I had this happening to me with councillors of 100 relation as well. Though with the wife dying it probably doesnt have anything to do with the relationship to its liege.
Arguing that it might be event related for the councillor it would be good to get a message why he left the council position.

Can you reliably reproduce a spouse dieing and a councillor leaving their post? If so which DLC's are you using and what circumstances? Can you upload a savegame from directly after the councillor leaves?

There is 1 event that I have found that causes this to happen, but has nothing to do with the spouse dieing.
 

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Can you reliably reproduce a spouse dieing and a councillor leaving their post? If so which DLC's are you using and what circumstances? Can you upload a savegame from directly after the councillor leaves?

There is 1 event that I have found that causes this to happen, but has nothing to do with the spouse dieing.

It might not always happen it seems, must be some special event. Maybe its a coincidence.
Hmmm, event related DLCs you mean ? Well SoI and LoR, but played without LoR as i dont like unplausible retinues, but thats offtopic. :)..and it happened to me as a european, not muslim or orthodox.
Most other DLCs as well, only two music ones and maybe another i dont remeber. Sorry, currently not on my CK2 comp.
Well its not a gamebreaker, so not too bad. I didnt get a "fired from council" either if i recall, so just a mysterious bug. Nothing serious.

Sorry have no save game when it happened, but will remember that while playing and get a save and upload here.


Some guesses after reading the two other threads:
-Maybe to do with being landed and unlanded. Will check if the courtiers are actually my landed vassals.
-What about the event when a kinsman asks for a landed title and you refrain to do so. The text says that the asking vassal will be angry or unhappy, but i never saw any repercussions, no lower relation, no added relation malus.
Maybe the event fires much later ? If there is one.
- It seems to happen as well without the spouse dying, so an event when the vassal has to be at his court again (that was an easy guess i admit :eek:o).


Maybe i have to play a vassal for ever in the HRE to understand all vassal mechanics and events. :laugh:
 

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If you look at the thread I linked in my first post you can see the event in question and also the savegame info, showing how my councillors left.

I was only asking because I wanted to make sure all these issues were found, so far as I know the dead spouse thing is fixed.
 

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well it defintely happened to me once when i reckognised that the coucillors wife had just died with patch 1.08 and fresh game. Though might have started with 1.07b. Might have been a coincidence though.

On your post in the other thread, shouldnt it be possible to fire the event through cheats ? I read the Cheat thread a wee bit and iirc you can trigger these for unlanded female courtiers. Thats what cheats are for.
Though i didnt dig deep neither into cheats nor the event files yet and dont know how to fire it.

Well i'll get a save and upload it when it happens again.
 

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Which DLC's are you using?

I can not reproduce this at all.

Do you a savegame where a spouse is about die or even directly after the councillor left?

I use SoI and LoR. This is in a new game started post 1.08 patch release but was also happening in a fresh 1.07b game before 1.08 was released.

If it helps, my councillors often aren't landed as I tend to invite high skilled people to my court if they're significantly better than anyone already in my realm.

I'll try & get a save together where I can make it happen reliably.