Dear tributaries, stop desiegeing MY rebels!

[Mjolnersson]

I am absolutely tired, annoyed and frustrated by the fact that whenever Im trying to change religion by rebels, my tributes will come and desiege, thus ruining all the rebel progress, sometimes outright killing rebel stacks.

When playing as something like chinese empire its absolutely necessary to have tributaries, and its also necessary to flip out of the garbage tier religion that is confucianism.

Is there any way to entirely stop my tribs from interfering with my rebels???
I dont want your help, you little, pesky bugs.

 

[Calanon]

Yeah it'd be nice if PDX furthered the independence of tributary states and removed automatic mil access.

 

[durbal]

Tributary system is systemic cancer.

 

[Premu]

As I haven't played with tributaries yet I don't know if they are subjects or not...

But if they are subjects, you could set their stance of their armies to remain in their terrotory, so this should stop desieging your provinces...

 

[Parapluman]

As I haven't played with tributaries yet I don't know if they are subjects or not...

But if they are subjects, you could set their stance of their armies to remain in their terrotory, so this should stop desieging your provinces...

They are subjects of a sort, but they are not normal vassals. So you cannot set their stance.

I have canceled my bordering tributaries in the past just so that I could switch religion in relative peace

 

[BarrosRodrigues]

If you make the tributaries disloyal (the ones that are being annoying) they will no longer try to "help" with the rebels. With that said beware that if they remain disloyal for too long they will break free.

 

[Sharples88]

Tributary system is systemic cancer.

I think I'm experiencing deja vu here...

 

[raistlin_wizard]

To change your religion you need more than 50% of the provinces of that religion and then surrender to rebels, you can do it manually, so it doesn't matter if they siege those provinces back.

 

[peenerz]

Tributaries shouldn’t even affect mandate growth, or at least be a minor factor. I doubt the average Chinese peasant cared if surrounding nations paid tribute or not. If anything I think tributaries should increase power projection not only for China but for all nations which can have them, rather than affect mandate

 

[maxirage]

No problem, Paradox has has noted. Next patch the ability to switch religion via rebels will be removed.

 

[saintlyknighted]

To change your religion you need more than 50% of the provinces of that religion and then surrender to rebels, you can do it manually, so it doesn't matter if they siege those provinces back.

When I was converting to Animist this was still an issue as the rebels need to break my country, and thus need to occupy at least 50% of the provinces. It was...not pleasant.

 

[iquabakaner]

Tributaries shouldn’t even affect mandate growth, or at least be a minor factor. I doubt the average Chinese peasant cared if surrounding nations paid tribute or not. If anything I think tributaries should increase power projection not only for China but for all nations which can have them, rather than affect mandate

I'm honestly surprised there is "respectfully disagree" on this post.

 

[Rocketskates]

empty the forts, let rebels take, when the tributary starts desieging, step on it with a doomstack, AI doesnt like eating attration from allies, he will move away, you stop siegeing, rince repeat
try to let them attach to you, and what is already said, you need provinces converted not provinces permanently owned

 

[Mjolnersson]

No problem, Paradox has has noted. Next patch the ability to switch religion via rebels will be removed.

May I ask you to direct me to the source? Its... interesting.

 

[bly08]

Only animist rebels need 50%+ of provinces to enforce demands, all other religious rebel demands can be accepted as long as they occupy the largest fraction of provinces regardless of how much that is.

 

[True_Heir_of_Rome]

It would be nice if there were a less game-y way to convert. Maybe three different methods, one very brutal and two easier paths tied to religious and humanist ideas.

 

[Parapluman]

To change your religion you need more than 50% of the provinces of that religion and then surrender to rebels, you can do it manually, so it doesn't matter if they siege those provinces back.

They will occasionally engage rebel stacks as well. Also if they siege provinces the rebels will double back and resiege these provinces so shifting takes longer overall.