Dear EU IV Team, Please don't release a buggy unplayable DLC like the CK II Team did.

[illapa]

Please don't have Art of War be a buggy mess like the CK2 DLC. It was a huge disappointment to me and my friends who are longtime paradox players, but it was catastrophic to any attempt to introduce new players to the genre of Grand Strategy. Please actually beta test. Please actually have some QA. Please have core game mechanics and multiplayer working on launch. Sure no launch is perfect but CK2's was a catastrophe that didn't have a single aspect of the game working and broke mechanics that worked before the DLC.

EU4 team. We as a community love you guys. You are the flagship product of Paradox's Grand Strategy games and we will support you through thick and thing but I am afraid that first impressions can't ever really be fixed and the release of two buggy unplayable messes in one month would really turn off a lot of new or recent recruits. Get more beta testers, get more QA, heck move the release date back if needed but please have the DLC playable at launch and if there is any way the community can help let us know we'll answer your call to arms.

*Disclaimer* I love CK2 and EU4 it just really hurts me to see a launch fail so hard and discourage new potential grand strategy recruits from even giving the genre a chance.

 

[oblio-]

Let me guess, Charlemagne?

 

[Monkbel]

Please do opt-in (Early Access) DLC and opt-in patch as beta. For at least a week.

This way eveyrone will be happy

 

[ABookshelf]

move the release date back

Well you can hold off a few weeks on buying the DLC if you want but the rest of us are really excited for what looks like a great DLC. Don't try and ruin it for the rest of us.

 

[gnome109]

Charlegmane was not that bad.

 

[Anzi]

Unplayable and broken are those words that have unfortunately completely lost their meaning, as people throw them out like candy. Charlemange does introduce some annoying bugs and features that need tweaking, but it's not even close to being unplayable/broken.

 

[cleef]

5$ says it'll be buggy, :/

 

[Dakilla TM]

Charlegmane was not that bad.

It wasn't just Charlemange but the new patch released by the CK2 team had tons of bugs, like the Med faces having weird glitchy eyes. I wouldn't say AoW would cause all the bugs but the new patch coming will certainly have at least one huge bug or glitch.

And to OP, don't expect too much from PDox. Ever since 1.6 with WoN I've pretty much lost hope on how PDox handles things. Just expect the usual ridiculous changes that no one asked for and still not fixing bugs that've been here since launch.

 

[Alblaka]

So, they started to mess up the CKII patches, too?
Well, that settles it, got to expand my boycot to Paradox as whole, not just the EUIV branch.

As for AoW (and Republic before), I stopped getting DLCs rigth away. If, at all, I grab them a month later on a good sale for less cash and less bugs.

 

[illapa]

The total lack of faith among some of you just really highlights that we need the moral boost that a good launch would give.

 

[Neoton]

So, they started to mess up the CKII patches, too?
Well, that settles it, got to expand my boycot to Paradox as whole, not just the EUIV branch.

Dude, your boycott is legendary!

 

[Dakilla TM]

So, they started to mess up the CKII patches, too?
Well, that settles it, got to expand my boycot to Paradox as whole, not just the EUIV branch.

As for AoW (and Republic before), I stopped getting DLCs rigth away. If, at all, I grab them a month later on a good sale for less cash and less bugs.

I'd say CK2 overall is still in a better state than EU4. But the recent patch with CK2 is stirring up some angry mobs. I'll say this, the new CK2 patch(2.2 I think) was pretty much nothing compared to how 1.6 was for EU4.

All I know is that for 1.8, all nations will have the "Declare War" button removed and France will have Sub-Saharan tech as a nerf. In addition, hordes will be nerfed even more where steppe units have no pips.


Oh, and Prussia/Brandenburg will be smashed into pieces as their NIs are now all maluses that make their troops the weakest in game. And like France, Prussia will have Sub-Saharan tech as a nerf.

"Because Prussia is OP, and it MUST be nerfed to the ground." - Paradox

 

[rulethechaos]

It would be really great, if some people would just boycott the forum....

 

[Krajzen]

It would be really great, if some people would just boycott the forum....

It would be really great if some people would boycott the word 'petition'

 

[illapa]

Charlegmane was not that bad.

Charlemange had Byzantine's lose Viceroy mechanics when loading a save, tribal play is horribly unbalanced, Doges lost the game upon succession, Muslims have no decadence. I could go on but any CK2 players here get the point. Please have a good launch Paradox. All religions and all government types were broken. Also you couldn't multiplayer without owning all the DLC

 

[Holbenilord]

It would be really great, if some people would just boycott the forum....

Yes!

 

[Surgünoglu]

So complaining on one board isn't enough?

 

[Captain Frye]

I agree. AoW should be released one month later.

 

[D3m0]

It's pretty much a given that a new feature DLC will break something on launch at this point.

 

[blackchoas]

Charlemange had Byzantine's lose Viceroy mechanics when loading a save, tribal play is horribly unbalanced, Doges lost the game upon succession, Muslims have no decadence. I could go on but any CK2 players here get the point. Please have a good launch Paradox. All religions and all government types were broken. Also you couldn't multiplayer without owning all the DLC

A few minor bugs which other than the republic one aren't game breaking and that is only game breaking for like what 1% of playable characters not surprised they missed it

Frankly I find this level of bugginess acceptable at a release, the game is still imperfect but it is playable unlike say the RoI release where the game was completely unplayable

This whole boycott crap is childish, if you don't like the way things are run go play something else, no one is stopping you all your actually doing is trying to get attention by waving a flag around and screaming I dislike this rather loudly, its annoying