So I read up a bit of wikipedia on empires, and in the game it would appear only 2 empires exist: HRE and the Byzantine Empire. However, the wiki also mentions an Islamic/Arab Empire, along with the Mongol Empire. Anyone know why only 2 empires make the cut? Furthermore, are there any benefits to being the ruler of an empire versus just a kingdom?
De Jure Empires
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Only two de jure empires, de jure meaning "in law". Or in the case of the game "traditional". The Byzantines ruled that area as an empire for so long, that it was theirs by law. Same with the HRE. There are however other empires, such as the Shia and Sunni Caliphates, but they are de facto empires, or just muslim so don't appear. None of the playable countries would accept a muslims de jure claim anyway.
As for benefits, of course. Emperors can have kings as vassals is a big one.
As for benefits, of course. Emperors can have kings as vassals is a big one.
Only emperors can have kings as vassals, that's the benefit.
As for other empires, you can only play as Christian characters so there's no point in dealing with the other empires. Caliphates are empire-level titles for Muslims, but if thehollowman is right and they're just titular (I haven't checked myself) then they have no de jure land or vassals, only de facto.
As for other empires, you can only play as Christian characters so there's no point in dealing with the other empires. Caliphates are empire-level titles for Muslims, but if thehollowman is right and they're just titular (I haven't checked myself) then they have no de jure land or vassals, only de facto.
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The general feeling was that each organized religion should only have one empire, just as each has only one religious head. Arguably, we could have de jure empires in Spain (which was recognized only within the Peninsula) and in Ethiopia (which was Oriental Christian and isolated from the rest of Christendom until the XVI century IIRC). In vanilla CK2, the two empires cover Germany + Bohemia and a much more generous part of the eastern Mediterranean and southern Italy + Sicily. The borders are ultimately easy to change in the game files, but what exists in the vanilla game is as close to historically accurate as you can get with the game engine.
Mod, mod, mod to your heart's content of course, it's not that hard to add new empires. But unlike CK1, a duchy must be entirely in the same kingdom, and each kingdom can only be part of a single empire. You will notice for example that the Kingdoms of Sicily, Syria, Croatia, and Jerusalem are all part of the Byzantine Empire, even though these lands are ruled in 1066 by Norman Catholics and Arab Muslims. A Byzantinophile could easily add Egypt and larger parts of Catholic Europe to the mix.
Mod, mod, mod to your heart's content of course, it's not that hard to add new empires. But unlike CK1, a duchy must be entirely in the same kingdom, and each kingdom can only be part of a single empire. You will notice for example that the Kingdoms of Sicily, Syria, Croatia, and Jerusalem are all part of the Byzantine Empire, even though these lands are ruled in 1066 by Norman Catholics and Arab Muslims. A Byzantinophile could easily add Egypt and larger parts of Catholic Europe to the mix.