De Jure Drift...Again

[tuareg109]

I know you're all probably sick of this, but I haven't found an answer anywhere (just by reading threads), so I guess I'll ask you guys.

Will kingdoms drift into Titular Empires? Specifically, will the kingdoms of Greece, Bulgaria, Anatolia, and Serbia drift into the Latin Empire?

Thanks in advance for any constructive answers.

 

[Maui]

Yes, they will drift.

 

[Kaiser Ludwig]

And the Empire will no longer be titular.

 

[Scottiths]

Forgive my ignorance, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to create titular titles. I usually create titles by clicking on the De Jure box and then selecting the title and creating it.

 

[perpetualmuse]

I think titular titles will still appear in the list of titles that can be created through the alerts that appear at the top of the screen, but you can get to the same screen another way even if you don't meet the requirements for the title: at the bottom of the screen (under the mini-map) there is an icon with two arrows that says "find title". Click that, then type in the title name (e.g. Latin Empire). You will then be able to click the result and get to the screen that lets you click the "create" button assuming that you meet all the requirements. This is also useful if you don't currently meet the requirements but want to see what they are.

 

[Scottiths]

Oh cool. Thanks

 

[Isaios]

I think titular titles will still appear in the list of titles that can be created through the alerts that appear at the top of the screen, but you can get to the same screen another way even if you don't meet the requirements for the title: at the bottom of the screen (under the mini-map) there is an icon with two arrows that says "find title". Click that, then type in the title name (e.g. Latin Empire). You will then be able to click the result and get to the screen that lets you click the "create" button assuming that you meet all the requirements. This is also useful if you don't currently meet the requirements but want to see what they are.

This. The Find Title button is a very useful tool, but it also shows titles no longer in really a part of the game. Like Trinacria for instance.

 

[TheStrangerOrg]

thats still part of the game. you can create it as a christian.

 

[Vinroke]

Trinacria is still in the game, Naples was disabled for players a couple patches back for some reason though.

 

[Isaios]

Trinacria is still in the game, Naples was disabled for players a couple patches back for some reason though.

Nooo... Other way around. Naples requires Italian culture and Naples, while Trinacria is a Dodo.

 

[Vinroke]

Not in my landed_titles it's not;

k_trinacria = {
	color={ 249 232 247 }
#	capital = 340 #	Palermo
	
	allow = {
		OR = {
			religion = catholic
			is_heresy_of = catholic
		}
	}
}


k_naples = {
	color = { 218 217 242 }
	capital = 334 # Napoli
	
	allow = {
		always = no
	}
	
	culture = italian
}

 

[Isaios]

Ah! we're both wrong.

I didn't notice the always = no part of Naples, and you didn't see the # before the capital = 340 line for Trinacria.

Essentially Trinacria can only be created by event or history.

 

[Vinroke]

Agh! Can't believe I missed that! Still no clue why they were disabled though. :unsure:

 

[Isaios]

Probably because it was incredibly easy to nab three kingdom titles as Sicily. A bit TOO easy really. Or it happened at the same time as all the other titulars going de Jure. I think the only titular left in the game at 1066 is Nubia.

PS: Awesomejuice! I wasn't wrong alone ^_^

 

[Vinroke]

deactivating them seems a bit extreme though, you can easily prevent the King of Sicly creating them;

k_trinacria = {
	color={ 249 232 247 }
	capital = 340 #	Palermo
	[COLOR="#FFFF00"]
	allow = {
		OR = {
			religion = catholic
			is_heresy_of = catholic
		}
                OR = {
                             k_sicily = {
                                           has_holder = no
                                         }
               NOT = {
                        has_landed_title = k_sicily
                        }
              }[/COLOR]
	}
}


k_naples = {
	color = { 218 217 242 }
	capital = 334 # Napoli
	
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]	allow = {
                    OR = {
                            k_sicily = {
                                           has_holder = no
                                         }
                                  
                    NOT = {
                          has_landed_title = k_sicily
                            }
                    }
               }[/COLOR]
}	
	culture = italian
}

 

[Isaios]

True, but devs do as devs want. I guess.

Of course, I rather want Galicia, Portugal, Castille and Leon to be titular titles with Asturias covering their (possibly non-createable) de Jure territory. And put Aragon as a titular title with IT'S territory being a part of de Jure Navarra, renamed Pamplona. One should probably not listen to what I think in regards to titular titles >_>