Date of the next DD?

[Axe99]

How much do we actually know of the game? Not all that much. No intelligence, no diplomacy, no detailed information about land combat, no explanation of how the battleplanner will work, most of the technology tree is still unknown, supplies, no information of modding capabilities, no information of any other country than Germany, no information on factions, no information about how stockpiling goods will work(except that we won't have as large stockpiles as in HoI3) and no information about economics.

We're straying from the topic a little here, but compared with the vast majority of titles four months out from release, we actually know quite a lot. That's the point I'm making, not that we know everything already. As an example, I'm looking forward to the Witcher 3 as well (due out a month before HoI, and with a team that probably has more than one person dedicated to marketing just that one game), and we know a decent amount more about HoI4 (put together with a team that could, in all probability, be smaller than Witcher 3's marketing team) than we do about Witcher 3. Given that we find this out from people putting in to support their fans in their spare time, I think there's a decent argument for being appreciative. I've seen a lot of developers in my time, and PDS/PI don't get everything right (no one does) and some things they may get right won't please everyone, but they've both improved in leaps and bounds over the years, and treat their fans/customers pretty damn well and seem to do it with the right attitude (and a so-sharp-you-could-shave-with-it sense of humour ).

 

[ariansandstrom]

We're straying from the topic a little here, but compared with the vast majority of titles four months out from release, we actually know quite a lot. That's the point I'm making, not that we know everything already. As an example, I'm looking forward to the Witcher 3 as well (due out a month before HoI, and with a team that probably has more than one person dedicated to marketing just that one game), and we know a decent amount more about HoI4 (put together with a team that could, in all probability, be smaller than Witcher 3's marketing team) than we do about Witcher 3. Given that we find this out from people putting in to support their fans in their spare time, I think there's a decent argument for being appreciative. I've seen a lot of developers in my time, and PDS/PI don't get everything right (no one does) and some things they may get right won't please everyone, but they've both improved in leaps and bounds over the years, and treat their fans/customers pretty damn well and seem to do it with the right attitude (and a so-sharp-you-could-shave-with-it sense of humour ).

Comparing games from other companies is not relevant. Let me tell you that EU4 got weekly DDs from the start of the announcement and their speedup towards the release date was 1 DD every day! No injustice seen at all...

 

[safe-keeper]

#thatfeeling when someone uses the word 'injustice' regarding how frequently someone writes dev diaries for them

 

[safe-keeper]

We're straying from the topic a little here, but compared with the vast majority of titles four months out from release, we actually know quite a lot. That's the point I'm making, not that we know everything already. As an example, I'm looking forward to the Witcher 3 as well (due out a month before HoI, and with a team that probably has more than one person dedicated to marketing just that one game), and we know a decent amount more about HoI4 (put together with a team that could, in all probability, be smaller than Witcher 3's marketing team) than we do about Witcher 3. Given that we find this out from people putting in to support their fans in their spare time, I think there's a decent argument for being appreciative. I've seen a lot of developers in my time, and PDS/PI don't get everything right (no one does) and some things they may get right won't please everyone, but they've both improved in leaps and bounds over the years, and treat their fans/customers pretty damn well and seem to do it with the right attitude (and a so-sharp-you-could-shave-with-it sense of humour ).

EU4 and CKII, and, from the looks of it, HOI4, are pretty vast improvement over HOI3, that's for sure.

 

[BjornB]

Comparing games from other companies is not relevant. Let me tell you that EU4 got weekly DDs from the start of the announcement and their speedup towards the release date was 1 DD every day! ...

Uhm... This just isn't true my friend :/

 

[Stenner]

Uhm... This just isn't true my friend :/

There where Thrice-daily DD's, I'm pretty sure. Plus demos that were the full game with a time limit! We need our DD's! Or videos! Just give us a webcam in the office!
/sarcasm

 

[1alexey]

How much do we actually know of the game? Not all that much. No intelligence, no diplomacy, no detailed information about land combat, no explanation of how the battleplanner will work, most of the technology tree is still unknown, supplies, no information of modding capabilities, no information of any other country than Germany, no information on factions, no information about how stockpiling goods will work(except that we won't have as large stockpiles as in HoI3) and no information about economics.

Actually we already know most of the tech tree. We saw infantry tech, armor, aviation, naval, land doctrines.

 

[Gamer_1745]

Just give us a webcam in the office!

:rofl: That might be fun. I know I would watch it for at least a short while. :rofl:

 

[Stenner]

Actually we already know most of the tech tree. We saw infantry tech, armor, aviation, naval, land doctrines.

Also we were shown a battle being planned in like, the first video, and without going into specifics the team has always said that the game is very moddable or "mod-friendly" at the least. Also that goods flow like Civ 5's resources, you have them or you don't and you can spend up to what you have, although it's true that we don't know if you can stockpile them at all (or stockpile supplies).

 

[varsovie]

Good thing we're still getting a DD, then, only slightly delayed. Guess the sky isn't falling after all.

Technically the sky is always falling.

 

[ariansandstrom]

Uhm... This just isn't true my friend :/

It is true. EU4 had weekly DDs. And so did previous games before that as well, CK2 had weekly DDs, Victoria 2 had weekly DDs, HoI3 had weekly DDs, EU3 had weekly DDs. It was common practice to have 1 DD every week(with sometimes something could come up but generally it was 1 DD per week). I know because firstly I have looked it up and secondly I have stalked the forums since after the release of EU3 but before the release of HoI3.

 

[safe-keeper]

Technically the sky is always falling.

 

[ariansandstrom]

Stop posting a Nazi on the forums. (Swedish name for this character is Nasse, which is also the Swedish equivalent of Nazi)

 

[Centurion1973]

So, when are we going to hack PI computers to satisfy our addiction for information regarding HoI4? /joke/

But seriously, I really thing rate of releasing DDs should increase soon.

Is the game in beta or still alpha?

 

[FOARP]

So, when are we going to hack PI computers to satisfy our addiction for information regarding HoI4? /joke/

But seriously, I really thing rate of releasing DDs should increase soon.

Is the game in beta or still alpha?

Last comment from Johan (regarding adding more parties) was that this game was in Alpha.

 

[Centurion1973]

Last comment from Johan (regarding adding more parties) was that this game was in Alpha.

in that case, I doubt Q2 release date.

 

[ObssesedNuker]

Pdxcon is for journalists not for ordinary people.

Doesn't mean we don't get to learn about all this awesome stuff in HOI4 since the whole point of having game journalists at these kinds of events is so they tell everyone what the developers said about the games awesome stuff.

 

[Centurion1973]

Doesn't mean we don't get to learn about all this awesome stuff in HOI4 since the whole point of having game journalists at these kinds of events is so they tell everyone what the developers said about the games awesome stuff.

Most journalists dont know which questions they should ask.

 

[xtfoster]

Uhm... This just isn't true my friend :/

It is true. EU4 had weekly DDs. And so did previous games before that as well, CK2 had weekly DDs, Victoria 2 had weekly DDs, HoI3 had weekly DDs, EU3 had weekly DDs. It was common practice to have 1 DD every week(with sometimes something could come up but generally it was 1 DD per week). I know because firstly I have looked it up and secondly I have stalked the forums since after the release of EU3 but before the release of HoI3.

You do realize that you are arguing with the guy that works for PDox (see his shield) and wasn't giving an opinion, but instead a statement of fact. He was pointing out that the statement that "EU4 got weekly DDs from the start of the announcement" was false.

EUIV was announced early August 2012
DD#0 was released late August

So that statement is already proven wrong.

 

[ariansandstrom]

You do realize that you are arguing with the guy that works for PDox (see his shield) and wasn't giving an opinion, but instead a statement of fact. He was pointing out that the statement that "EU4 got weekly DDs from the start of the announcement" was false.

EUIV was announced early August 2012
DD#0 was released late August

So that statement is already proven wrong.

You have no idea what I was talking about. Maybe I formulated my initial sentence a little wrong but it does not matter as that was not my point at all and you would be able to easily understand that since you have quoted my followup post. But since you don't I will write it again in a different way: Since the start of them releasing DDs for the different games they have had 1 DD per week. So don't come here and pick out an irrelevant part of my initial post to try to invalidate my actual point which I made since the very beginning.