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I think its time to rename this AAR to das Ende vom Anfang (the end of the beginning) :rolleyes:

Indeed. Germany will rise again from its ashes.

Doesn't look good. You'll probably be done by Hitler's birthday.

I was also of this opinion, but my strategic withdrawals finallly paid for and Allied-Soviet forces had to face bigger and bigger stacks to destroy me.
 

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Do you have some forces in Norway left? Maybe you can hold out there for a while, if strong enough could even invade Sweden and form Germanic Scandinavia. If Germans weren't strong enough for greatness the Nordic brothers should be!

Or too bad that Antarctica's provinces are not included in HoI games it ruins the chances of Germany players so much. :mad:
 

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Very good AAR. I could never, ever hold out that long.

You held far longer than Germany should ever have. For that, you have "won" this scenario.
But I must ask, how was Japan doing?
 

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THIS!

Impressive AAR, but frankly I`m surprised that none of the moderators turned up to, well, moderate some.

Rgds, Oldtimer

Why do you think it needs moderation ?

Very good AAR. I could never, ever hold out that long.

You held far longer than Germany should ever have. For that, you have "won" this scenario.
But I must ask, how was Japan doing?

I am at work for now so i couldn't post a screenhot but nothing much happened; stalemate in China and Burma, Americans captured New Guinea and few other islands. AI was quite passive there, it either waited to kill me first or it is just bad :)
 

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Do you have some forces in Norway left? Maybe you can hold out there for a while, if strong enough could even invade Sweden and form Germanic Scandinavia. If Germans weren't strong enough for greatness the Nordic brothers should be!

Or too bad that Antarctica's provinces are not included in HoI games it ruins the chances of Germany players so much. :mad:

My forces were almost wiped out due to lack of supplies. In addition, Soviets brokethrough my defenses in Narvik and pushing towards the South. Capitulation is the only option.
 

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Grats for playing this to the end. I rarely even play out a victory because that's just plain boring to me!
 

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Grats for playing this to the end. I rarely even play out a victory because that's just plain boring to me!

I generally play until the victory becomes obvious or when AI screws up things. This one was quite depressing for me. I just can't tolerate defeats, lack of fuel, manpower and constant loss of territory got me down. I entertained it but wanted it to end as fast as possible. I didn't have that feeling since i played WIF mod long time ago :)
 

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So now its going to be time to restart as the Allied Occupation Zone and later the FRG?

By the way, I kinda wonder how Germany's post WW2 borders are going to be dealt with. That allied advance drove right up to the gates of Berlin, while the Soviets snatched Bavaria away during your Downfall. Might we see some border adjustments, to make them more like the IRL West/East German borders, or are you just gonna keep it this way and go with it?

One thing I think about too is that due to that Allied advance right up to Berlin, the Soviet imposed Berlin Blockade probably wont be possible anymore....
 

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So now its going to be time to restart as the Allied Occupation Zone and later the FRG?

By the way, I kinda wonder how Germany's post WW2 borders are going to be dealt with. That allied advance drove right up to the gates of Berlin, while the Soviets snatched Bavaria away during your Downfall. Might we see some border adjustments, to make them more like the IRL West/East German borders, or are you just gonna keep it this way and go with it?

One thing I think about too is that due to that Allied advance right up to Berlin, the Soviet imposed Berlin Blockade probably wont be possible anymore....

I thought about these too. I just had surrender event in my game but still full surrender didn't fire. There are some other problems :

+ Americans seem to be very passive in the Pacific War.
+ Division of Germany, though nearly historical in terms of quantity of territories held by US and USSR is not suitable for some cold war events and we may lose them due to "bad" division.

So, what comes to my mind is to start from September 1945 scenario. In that scenario, Germany is historically divided between Allied nations and Japan has just been defeated. Division of Germany is different but i think as my "real" division is comparable to actual division in terms of territorial quantities, it is not very unfair to do that. Japan will eventually be defeated, so it doesn't matter much if we flashforward this.

If I begin from September 1945. My path should be like this :

+ Take Panama or some other bystander, wait for the formation for Allied Occupation Zone.
+ Take Allied Occupation Zone, try to rebuild German economy. Rearming is forbidden as it would be gamey.
+ Take Federal Germany when it is formed and lead Germany through Cold War.