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Why don't you update the link for the ID map of Europe from 1936. Current link is down. I just never get bored from looking at it :D
 

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Is it posible that you add zoming provinces on some extra land small provicnes on continents??????
 

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It's strange how Balkan always gets in the center of attention as soon as it comes to maps and such :p

I'll start a flamewar about Sweden and it's misplaced/misnamed/etc/etc/etc provinces in a thread near you soon just in order to get some balance in here. :D
 

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It's strange how Balkan always gets in the center of attention as soon as it comes to maps and such :p

I'll start a flamewar about Sweden and it's misplaced/misnamed/etc/etc/etc provinces in a thread near you soon just in order to get some balance in here. :D

Well Sweeden is in other part of the world. No so much wars, and there fore no actually great and fast changes. Balkan is a gunpowder barrel.
 

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It's strange how Balkan always gets in the center of attention as soon as it comes to maps and such :p

I'll start a flamewar about Sweden and it's misplaced/misnamed/etc/etc/etc provinces in a thread near you soon just in order to get some balance in here. :D

Little attention around here is the price you Swedes have to pay for being the most peaceful corner in the world for the last 200 years :p
 

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It's strange how Balkan always gets in the center of attention as soon as it comes to maps and such :p

I'll start a flamewar about Sweden and it's misplaced/misnamed/etc/etc/etc provinces in a thread near you soon just in order to get some balance in here. :D

That's because Balkan people have a nasty habit of hating all their neighbours. :p
 

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I'm not in a position to make the decision, so this is just my opinion.

Micronations, and definitly micro-provinces, should not be added to the game unless they could have HISTORICALLY had a MILITARY impact on the game. By this, I mean that they should be able to at least slow down even a smaller power from a military conquest. Of course there ARE some exceptions to this. Luxumbourg - because it is 'grandfathered' in by existing in Vanilla HOI2. The Free City of Danzig, because of the unique impact it had on WWII. Other than those 2, I can't think of any other micronations that should be included in the game. As for micro-provinces, I have already given my opinion, and the reasoning behind it. The use of zoomed provinces should again be reserved for those areas that were HISTORICALLY significant, not just some strip of land that changed hand because of some minor treaty.
 

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I'm not in a position to make the decision, so this is just my opinion.

Micronations, and definitly micro-provinces, should not be added to the game unless they could have HISTORICALLY had a MILITARY impact on the game. By this, I mean that they should be able to at least slow down even a smaller power from a military conquest. Of course there ARE some exceptions to this. Luxumbourg - because it is 'grandfathered' in by existing in Vanilla HOI2. The Free City of Danzig, because of the unique impact it had on WWII. Other than those 2, I can't think of any other micronations that should be included in the game. As for micro-provinces, I have already given my opinion, and the reasoning behind it. The use of zoomed provinces should again be reserved for those areas that were HISTORICALLY significant, not just some strip of land that changed hand because of some minor treaty.

First off, Luxembourg and Danzig are not really micro provinces anymore. Secondly, very few provinces on the map had individually a direct military impact on the war historically. I can't think of any American provinces that fits such demands, so you might just want all of USA represented as one province. There are many reasons for including Luxembourg, it isn't only there because it is "grandfathered" in by existing in Vanilla HOI2.

The micro provinces you'll see on the map are not there just because we like some micro provinces here and there. They are present because people perceive them as significant, so I think you miss the point by calling them all insignificant.
 

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First off, Luxembourg and Danzig are not really micro provinces anymore. Secondly, very few provinces on the map had individually a direct military impact on the war historically. I can't think of any American provinces that fits such demands, so you might just want all of USA represented as one province. There are many reasons for including Luxembourg, it isn't only there because it is "grandfathered" in by existing in Vanilla HOI2.

The micro provinces you'll see on the map are not there just because we like some micro provinces here and there. They are present because people perceive them as significant, so I think you miss the point by calling them all insignificant.
1) Luxembourg and Danzig were not part of the post about Micro-provinces, but micro-nations. Neither had, or could have had, a significant military. Remember that HOI2 and DH are Strategic War Games, not Diplomatic games. Danzig needs to be included because of it leading to the invasion of Poland. Luxembourg because it is already in the game. Micro-nations like Monaco, Lichtenstein, Rijeka, etc. don't and shouldn't be included in the game.
2) What I meant about micro-provinces was size. A lot of people are asking for the ability to use the vanilla DH map to model every change in the borders during the 20th century. This would require very small provinces which would be unusable (no room for a counter or sprite, plus icons for an Airbase, AA, Rocket Test Site, Nuclear Test Site, Beach and Port Icon and still be able to click on the province). That is why these micro-provinces shouldn't be included. PS: There is no easy way to use "zoomed" provinces in the Balkans, even the Adriatic is too small to allow any. You could artificially inflate the size of some of the provinces (like is done for some of the capitals), but that defeats the purpose of trying to model the borders doesn't it?
 

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