Darker Skin Complexion for Coptic Portraits

[King Ryan]

I'm really happy that Paradox added Coptic culture and it's really cool that you can play as one (a Peasant leader count vassal in the Daimettia area, to reflect the leader of a Coptic rebellion around the time if I remember right)

That said however, I think that the Copts look a little bit too light in complexion. They look like Greeks. Sure, the Copts had Greek admixture and what not, but they would have looked much more like the Arabized Egyptians of today.

Now, I'm not a huge fan of the Arab portraits in game - They just look like dated, brown versions of the default white ck2 character portraits. But that said, I think the Copts should be darkened a bit.

 

[Vityviktor]

In my opinion, Copts should use a mix of Arab faces and East African or Byzantine clothing. Assyrians too (Arab faces and Byzantine clothing).

 

[SirWitan]

I can agree to Vityviktor. I am also really happy about the addition of the coptic culture, but now that we have assyrian and coptic, there should also be sometihing like aramaic on the levant coast, not just arabic levantine. Also there should be seperate portrait packs for berbers, levantine, and egyptian.

 

[King Ryan]

Also Copts should have the normal desert town gfx I forgot to mention, it's a little odd seeing them not use those. And Yeah, adding a Western Arameic culture for some of the Christian Levantine provinces would be cool too. It would be nice for new portrait gfx for the Levantines, Arabs, Berber, Egyptians, Copts, and everyone... honestly it would be real great if the original two (white and arab) dopey looking gfx were phased out all together with more specialized gfx for culture groups

 

[AndrejK]

Aramaic culture... please show me which province would be fit for it...
I think what is much more needed is to split the giant Berber culture into:

• Berber proper: guys who speak the language
• Maghrebi: Arabic of the region of Maghreb. Predominantly in Tunisia, lowlands of Morrocco and parts of Algeria.
• African=African Romance. I found sources tgat it was present until 13th century in Tunisia (Gafsa) and possibly Ceuta as well along with Catholic religion. I found always odd tgat Christianity disappeared in the Maghreb just like that...

Aramaic could bein Edessa, Mardin, Hasakeh and well...it survived longest in Antilebanon mts.. in Damascus countryside till today

 

[Karlingid]

In my opinion, Copts should use a mix of Arab faces and East African or Byzantine clothing. Assyrians too (Arab faces and Byzantine clothing).

Arab faces, Greek clothes. I looked up quite a bit on Coptic textiles to figure that same question out, and it came out very Greek. For the Assyrians, though, I disagree - at least, I think that Assyrians and Jews should follow similar portrait trends. If the Assyrians get Arab portraits, so should Jews, or they could both use Mediterranean/Iberian/Persian portraits to represent how the native populations of the Fertile Crescent have a different appearance than those of the Arabian peninsula, Egypt, and North Africa.

Aramaic culture... please show me which province would be fit for it...
I think what is much more needed is to split the giant Berber culture into:

• Berber proper: guys who speak the language
• Maghrebi: Arabic of the region of Maghreb. Predominantly in Tunisia, lowlands of Morrocco and parts of Algeria.
• African=African Romance. I found sources tgat it was present until 13th century in Tunisia (Gafsa) and possibly Ceuta as well along with Catholic religion. I found always odd tgat Christianity disappeared in the Maghreb just like that...

Aramaic could bein Edessa, Mardin, Hasakeh and well...it survived longest in Antilebanon mts.. in Damascus countryside till today

Aramaic is literally the entirety of Christian Syria, Lebanon, and the Christian parts of k_Jerusalem up until roughly the time of Saladin. The Berbers do need a split, though - mostly between tribal lines (similar to the early East Slavs), with a separate Maghrebi melting pot (Bedouin + Berber cultures), and African Romance being thrown in for good measure couldn't hurt. Evidently, it was quite similar, if not identical, to Sardinian, and the Sardinians were considered to be Latin-Africans according to al-Idrisi.

 

[benjaseth]

New Arab faces + East African clothes would be my preference.
It would look like this:

 

[BeyondExpectation]

Aramaic culture... please show me which province would be fit for it...
I think what is much more needed is to split the giant Berber culture into:

• Berber proper: guys who speak the language
• Maghrebi: Arabic of the region of Maghreb. Predominantly in Tunisia, lowlands of Morrocco and parts of Algeria.
• African=African Romance. I found sources tgat it was present until 13th century in Tunisia (Gafsa) and possibly Ceuta as well along with Catholic religion. I found always odd tgat Christianity disappeared in the Maghreb just like that...

Berber isn't a language, it's a language family. Berber culture in-game is like having a "Germanic" culture that includes English and Norse. Dividing Berber into Guanche, Masmuda, Zanata, Sanhaja, Tagelmust and Tuareg would be a much more accurate depiction.