If anyone thinks germany would have been satisfied with Danzig they are as much of an optimist as Chamberlain in '38. Just look at the Czechs. its basically the same situation playing again, but this time Britain doesnt pussy out.
Pretty much my opinion. It would be Danzig first, then Silesia, then etc, etc.. And like Czechoslovakia, they would have annexed non-german populated regions just the same.
I think the next thing that would happen would be Germany demanding Polish part of Silesia, perhaps via a referendum that they would proceed to manipulate. The result would then probably be war or a coup d'etat in Poland (with Poland becoming a puppet and giving up land to Germany and the Soviets if the coup were successful or a war if it weren't).
Who would perform this coup? Seems a bit far stretched. There was no real opposition to the 'dictatorship with no dictator.' Despite their differences the Sanation included everyone notable.
how plausible you guys think it would be for Poland to make a deal with the SU? they would hand over (partially maybe) Belorussia, in exchange for protection (and other goodies I guess)? I mean, when you are boxed in between 2 World super powers, you don´t have the luxury to be "demanding".
Zero to none. The foreign minister, Jozef Beck, was running a very firm neutrality policy and keeping Poland distant from both Germany and Soviet Union. He is sort of a prodigy of Pilsudski and continued his foreign policy which involved strengthening ties with France and Britain instead. But yeah, the government in Poland was too proud/stubborn to ever accept Soviet union's assistance when it was offered to them historically, but considering what happened it is probable that Stalin did not have good intents. Accepting soviet help would also have caused issue with their established neutrality and not siding with either of the countries sandwiching them. Basically, there was really not anyone in the government that was 'pro-german' or 'pro-soviet.' Although; Edward Smigly-Rydz, the field marshal, had this fascist political party created to advocate and rally the Polish people under his leadership. They wanted, among other things, to establish antisemite laws like the nuremberg ones. I imagine he could have gone 'pro-german' fast if a reasonable deal was made, although I doubt they trusted the Germans that much after annextion of Czechoslovakia. But as I said, the political party failed to rally many supporters and he did not become the 'second Pilsudski' as he wanted to be.
the way I see it, if Danzig was handed over to Poland, the Poles would "force" Germany to sign a deal, like peace in our time kind of ting instead this time the Germans would Promise on International level that Germany would respect the borders for good. and the poles would make the world know about this! meaning that Germany would no longer have the "Danzig!" Casus belie, Im sure the nazi goverment would try all they could to take the rest of Poland, but they already have Danzig. they promised to respect Poland territorial Integrity. not eve the Nazis would be such dicks would they? :ninja:
I doubt that the Nazis would honor this honestly.. Hitler pissed on the munich treaty a year before where he assured that Germany had no more territorial claims. If annexing Poland was in Hitler's interests, he would have attempted to do so eventually.
No serious historian uses Mein Kampf as evidence, as it is not written by Hitler (he dictated it) and it is not edited by him, and it is made as propaganda book made to win votes.
There would not have been war in 1939 had Poland given Danzig to Germany, Germany did not want war in 1939 and both Germany and Soviet Union wanted strong Poland between them to slow down enemy attack. And remember Molotov-Rippentrop pact never was agreement that would split Poland between SU and Germany, it was agreement to put Poland under their Sphere of Influence. But things went differently.
Hm.
Heh, you seem to have mistaken history book to propaganda book.
Hm....
That + Alsace-Lorraine+parts of Switzerland and THEN Germany would have been satisfied, with SU they would have dealt with eventually, but who knows how and when. With west they never wanted anything more, bigger issues were inner issues, that without WW2 could have gotten better, who knows. Or worse.
But unlike 70 years of one sided stories originating from propaganda, Germany was did not want to conguer the world.
It is difficult to trust someone advocating 'good' fascism in his signature. I am sure you think you know the 'true story' and everyone else is a fool, but I am not convinced at all.
