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I think so, but cvl's are not a "major" part of my fleets so I do not pay them much attention.
if it says "CVL +x", then yes, otherwise no. CVL and CV are completely different and distinct ship types in the game.
I know that some of those doctrines, at least, apply to CVLs, since I have a 1954 US game where I have (of course) researched all the doctrines and my CVLs have a much better positioning score than they had at the beginning of the game...or so I remember.
The only use I find for CVLs is to place them in a 6 ship ASW fleet 1xCVL, 1xCA, 1xCL and 3XDDs, to patrol the mid Atlantic convoy routes. They work beautifully in this role for either the US or British.
But these fleets are too weak I’d think to operate in hostile waters with any kind of enemy carrier force around, so I haven’t tried using them with any other nation or anywhere but on Atlantic convoy duty where enemy CVs are rarely ever seen.
I guess a large fleet of 8-10 CVLs plus other ships might be able to stand up to 3 or 4 CVs, but I don’t know. Anyone tried it?
CVL´s are lousy against any surface ships but they are excellent against subs, esp. if sub-hunting technologies are developed. When attacking ports with subs stationed there they usually suffer heavy losses due to CVL´s.
This. Remeber they are support ships and not the damage dealers. They are a must if your Navy Group might get bombed or soaking damage like son of liberty said
Why do you put CA in ASW fleet? They got horrible "detection" and anti sub values
Probably to add a little punch to the fleet incase it runs into something heavier than subs.
The best asw fleet is 30 dd's. 10 with radar, 10 with anti sub, 10 with fc "just in case".
Single CA wont make any difference. And since CA's generally have better firing range that CL's fleet will try to position itself on CA (capital ship) firing range and the only ship who will actually fire will be that single heavy cruiser. That command limit slot used used better by extra CL.
I tend to run into a lot of AI fleets with DDs in them out in the middle of nowhere. The CA guarantees if there is a surface duel, none of my ships get damaged. I've had CLs need months of refit when a DD gets a lucky hit on them at closer ranges.
Any CA will do, I use my older tech class CAs for this duty, since they can’t keep up with the newer CVs anyway.
The fleet is out there to hunt subs, I much prefer it remain undamaged and on station, then have it sink a few enemy DDs and end up stuck in port refitting for months the damage the DDs cause.
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Aaaaand these sorts of posts are the reason I'm done with this forum...To much bullshit.
Some people were very helpful and inciteful, but the spam and bullshit just isn't worth it.
Not only does he not directly answer the question, then says "maybe" (which is worth nothing, especially since there's bound to be someone else who knows what they're talking about) but he gives additional irrelevant information to make it even more useless and further invalidates his own "maybe". Never thought such a negative double whammy was possible before I started cruising forums. Maybe it's just me, but am I the only person here (non-politically correct person, because there are at least a few very PC pussies in this forum) who sees nothing useful in that post and just worthless spam? I'm not trying to bash anyone, I'm just getting tired of useless posts (Yea, I know mine is useless to the subject as well, but at least I have a point with it). It can really be a needless pain when you're trying to find information on something. What about the guy who made the thread trying to find help? That has to be his first reply from someone? You don't say "maybe" unless you have strong evidence and real basis but aren't 100% sure. Then, "MAYBE" your post has some substance and point to it. This post is just him saying "I don't have a clue", not only is it pointless to post that information in the first place, but he says it in more words than are necessary and in a fashion that leaves the asker to wonder and be dicked around for nothing. Even if it's not the way I claim it is, then why didn't he add anymore information on the subject instead of a completely useless post?
Not here to argue negatively, I won't be "flaming" in this thread. But I'd expect to be called out in the same way if I was posting totally useless things like that. It's just a needless dick around. It seems to happen alot on here. It usually goes like this <useless post, useless post, post with some form of substance, useless post, useless post>. I'm really not intending this merely as a way to bash at any said person(s). It's just that general thoughtlessness that's turned me away from this forum.
Give your CL's fire control. That will help a lot. However keep in mind that pure DD fleets(known as weenie fleets) will close regardless.
I said I think so because no doctrines in the standard doctrine tree mention cvl's as a separate unit. Not one. However their positioning etc.... goes up. This leads me to believe that they do, however since those ships serve solely as decoys or meat shields I see no reason to actually test their response to certain doctrines. Instead of whining about my post, why didn't you get off your high horse and check?