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[Quift]

So I should assume my cultural change proposals are all fine and dandy and no other changes are desired?

Except the Vlach thing. I think Romanian is kinda modern name for it, East Latin could do as a generalized name.

Basicly yes. Now you just have to decide who deserves the abghazian tag. kurds, carantians, nubians etc. this is when the flame wars will begin... :rofl:

Most important is to get rid of the Going Native anomaly. Havn't seen anyone speak up for it yet.´and it seems that the results are ridiculous more often than not.

 

[unmerged(2456)]

Most important is to get rid of the Going Native anomaly. Havn't seen anyone speak up for it yet.´and it seems that the results are ridiculous more often than not.

As is it isn't worth defending. As i said, it might get a lot more traction if naming was linked to father's culture instead of their culture. It would get around the naming their children weird names they'd never use thing.

 

[unmerged(21937)]

Well....i don't know. Maybe if we could get someone to give us more headsets it wouldn't be so bad. But the ones further south certainly went native, culture-wise, but not religion-wise.

More headsets -> CK2
Naming by father culture -> Most likely CK2

 

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Basicly yes. Now you just have to decide who deserves the abghazian tag. kurds, carantians, nubians etc. this is when the flame wars will begin... :rofl:

Khazars are about to have that one.

 

[Justinian_A]

The chance should be increased then, though, if the woman is of the same culture as the current capital province.

I do agree with that. Boost it up to 35%-40%, that's fine. I'd even take a straight 50/50 to get rid of the ridiculous "going native with no native blood whatsoever" problem.

 

[Justinian_A]

You're proposing that the Wends, Bulgarians, Serbians and Croats are all going to get their own tags? Awesome. I always disliked the "West Slavic" and bulk "South Slavic" designations.

 

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You're proposing that the Wends, Bulgarians, Serbians and Croats are all going to get their own tags? Awesome. I always disliked the "West Slavic" and bulk "South Slavic" designations.

Well, West Slavic is being used as "Wends" already in 1.05, I'm just proposing renaming it to what it essentially is.

 

[Justinian_A]

Well, West Slavic is being used as "Wends" already in 1.05, I'm just proposing renaming it to what it essentially is.

Yep, I know, I'll just be glad to see it as Wends instead of West Slavic. West Slavic just sounded so generic.

 

[Riddermark]

Khazars are about to have that one.

Isn't that a complete waste for a 1 couty thing? That fiction duchy there is bad - and so is the attempt to justify the Jew tag.

Lets just have it renamed by Johan ot heretic as religion and use universally for all vassals everywhere.

 

[unmerged(2456)]

More headsets -> CK2

Really? Couldn't you just see if someone wanted to do some more who's good at it? It's not like redoing the maps or menus.

Naming by father culture -> Most likely CK2

Yea that would require Johan time, but imo it would solve a lot of the problem most people have. There are still always be people out there that won't be satified unless there is no conversion period.

 

[unmerged(21937)]

Really? Couldn't you just see if someone wanted to do some more who's good at it? It's not like redoing the maps or menus.

Emm, that would be the graphical aspect yeah, which would require modders work. But it would have to be added to the game code as well, which is why I'm pretty sure it's CK2 material. Not to mention, no graphical modder has been adding whole new headsets into the existing ones either.

Yea that would require Johan time, but imo it would solve a lot of the problem most people have. There are still always be people out there that won't be satified unless there is no conversion period.

It would probably require significant amount of Johan-time, for such a small improvement. Changing nativity-going percentage is probably a small tweak, but changing the kids to use father's culture for names would require new coding.

 

[Ayeshteni]

Well, West Slavic is being used as "Wends" already in 1.05, I'm just proposing renaming it to what it essentially is.

What about the 'Sorbs'?

Ayeshteni

 

[unmerged(2456)]

Emm, that would be the graphical aspect yeah, which would require modders work. But it would have to be added to the game code as well, which is why I'm pretty sure it's CK2 material. Not to mention, no graphical modder has been adding whole new headsets into the existing ones either.

There are mods out there that have more muslim faces that in default with no work on the code.

But yes, the graphical modders generally replace rather than add, but i'm sure you could get them to.

It would probably require significant amount of Johan-time, for such a small improvement. Changing nativity-going percentage is probably a small tweak, but changing the kids to use father's culture for names would require new coding.

Yea, but the % isn't really that much off. Certainly the 1% someone mentioned earlier is far too low as it did happen historically.

And either way, it doesn't discount that the most appropriate area for the last free dark-skin tag should be for some type of iberia culture.

 

[Veldmaarschalk]

What about the 'Sorbs'?

Ayeshteni

Sorbs are just a western slavic tribe, who lived/live in the Lausitz county of CK.

 

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There are mods out there that have more muslim faces that in default with no work on the code.

Yes, but I presume you meant with "more headsets" having more than just dark/light. Expanding dark or light faces with some mixed faces would prolly be weird and not really help anything.

 

[unmerged(2456)]

Yes, but I presume you meant with "more headsets" having more than just dark/light. Expanding dark or light faces with some mixed faces would prolly be weird and not really help anything.

Or we could replace the dark-skinned ones, especially the male ones which are primarly the ones people would be concerned about to be less muslim-only.

 

[Third Angel]

That is only specutlation about Moorish and it has almost no basis. There are several competing theories and its not even the dominant one, if one could said to be.

I'm glad you're here to teach me about french ethimology, though I will stand on my position.

But as i said, berber, which is also a derogatory word from "barbarian" is better since they were a distinct culture. Amazigh is the name they prefer to go by.

Berber like moorish can definately not be used to designate all the inhabitants of Al-Andalus, including different Muslims, different arabized Christians and Jews, only "andalusi" can.

 

[unmerged(2456)]

I'm glad you're here to teach me about french ethimology, though I will stand on my position.

I'm not saying that the french word doesn't mean what it says. I'm saying there is little evidence to support the spanish word is based off the french word.

Berber like moorish can definately not be used to designate all the inhabitants of Al-Andalus, including different Muslims, different arabized Christians and Jews, only "andalusi" can.

If we had more tags i'd agree, but we have a finite number, so one is better than none.

 

[Olaus Petrus]

Byak, I like the cultural changes you made. Especially I like the idea that Mordvins get their own tag instead of Estonians.

Because names seem to cause problems, we could unite all catholic cultures and call it Latin culture and use Latin names. Then we would have Henricus instead of Heinrich, Henri, Henry, Henrik, Enrico, Enrique, Henryk, Harri, Hendrik and Jindřich.

 

[Veldmaarschalk]

Byak, I like the cultural changes you made. Especially I like the idea that Mordvins get their own tag instead of Estonians.

Because names seem to cause problems, we could unite all catholic cultures and call it Latin culture and use Latin names. Then we would have Henricus instead of Heinrich, Henri, Henry, Henrik, Enrico, Enrique, Henryk, Harri, Hendrik and Jindřich.

Yes, that would free up some tags which then can be used for all those finnic/ugric-baltic tribes.