Example : England versus Scots and Welsh (I'm in a big penny pincher phase, to be honest, wondering if it's worth it to ''waste'' 100 DIPLO to accept a culture that one day will be in cultural union)
Cultures of the same group as your-convert, accept, or ignore ?
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Not worth it. You get less problems with them, since they are in the same cultural union anyway.
Personnally, I definitely ignore. Because even though you don't get cultural union, you still have reduced malus for "similar culture". Only -15% instead of -33% IIRC. So it's defintiely not worth for me.
Even if I'm not playing as a major nation (end up becoming culture group union), it is still rare for me to accept a culture of the same group. Why not save the slots for cultures like Muscovite or Tuscan?
Converting cultures is very expensive and I struggle to find an example of when to do it. Did convert Calais once when I was getting 30,000 dutch separatist rebels every ten years with no warning but it took ages.
Accepting cultures can be a use for surplus diplo points if you have them but it's the cultures most alien to yours you want to accept. Don't have stats for this but stating the provinces without full coring them (which costs no monarch points) seems generally a better option.
Accepting cultures can be a use for surplus diplo points if you have them but it's the cultures most alien to yours you want to accept. Don't have stats for this but stating the provinces without full coring them (which costs no monarch points) seems generally a better option.
The idea is that it's going to take a while until Scots and Welsh are fully accepted.
That 100 dip is better suited to accept some french culture (you can get one within 30 years) or keeping up in tech or 1/4th of an idea
The minute you click the empire button they become accepted anyway and thus the 100 dip is wasted
It's kind of a nice idea to instantly accept them and thus get full income from those lands (full benefit immediately => easier time snowballing out of control) but I really don't think it makes a difference when you could fight a war and accept flemish or gasgone or anything on the mainland which gets you MORE of a benefit (-30% to -0% is better than -15% to -0%)
Like if you had a no-empire government type then maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea but even then you'd eventually switch out
The minute you click the empire button they become accepted anyway and thus the 100 dip is wasted
It's kind of a nice idea to instantly accept them and thus get full income from those lands (full benefit immediately => easier time snowballing out of control) but I really don't think it makes a difference when you could fight a war and accept flemish or gasgone or anything on the mainland which gets you MORE of a benefit (-30% to -0% is better than -15% to -0%)
Like if you had a no-empire government type then maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea but even then you'd eventually switch out
Maybe convert highlander to Scots for unified Albion.
Also convert Norman to English to gain a extra accepted culture.
Convert Calais so no rebels and as a foot in the door for converting the Flemish and Dutch.
You can turn the wallon to franican to have rich north france your culture for cheap.
....of course, all this when you are ahead with dip mind you.
Also convert Norman to English to gain a extra accepted culture.
Convert Calais so no rebels and as a foot in the door for converting the Flemish and Dutch.
You can turn the wallon to franican to have rich north france your culture for cheap.
....of course, all this when you are ahead with dip mind you.
This is the only culture conversion I ever do as England. Partly for RP as I suppose it's not a terribly efficient use of DIP points.
And no I don't culture convert same group cultures, only wrong group culture, if I have enough cost reductions and I'm Orthodox to enable the Consecration of a Metropolitan.