Culture mistake

[Shemshin]

Could you please remove Albanian and Romanian cultures from the South Slavic culture group.It is a huge mistake and one could get offended.

 

[Y. D. Dandy]

Yes please, I always put the hungarian culture in the Finno-Ugric Group in EUIV and CK2. And its historicall.

Except it's really not. The Hungarian language is very distantly related to Finnish, and full of Turkic and Slavic loanwords while Finnish is full of Swedish loanwords. The languages are probably less similar than English and Hindi.

And there's really no cultural similarities. The Magyars were a steppe people, while the Finno-Ugric peoples inhabited the forests and tundra. Naturally, the national mythologies are completely different. As I understand it, this spilled over to nationalism in such a way that the Magyars tended to embrace Turanism and a cultural connection with the Turks.

In the start of the game Bosnia is all Serbian and Orthodox,but historically Bosnia was pretty much Croatian an Catholic until the Turks arrived.

Indeed. The Serbs of Bosnia--like the Serbs of Vojvodina, who aren't represented in the game--only started settling there after the Turkish-Hungarian wars depopulated large areas of borderlands. And the Bosniaks only emerged as an ethnic identity as Serbs and Croats who converted to Islam.

However all of this is part of a larger problem: culture in EU4 is simply not designed to be dynamic.

And Slovenians probably don't exist because they are too small of a country and they were heavily germanised throughout the history.And their first independent country was created in 1991.

Slovene nationalism started around the end of the EU4 timeframe. And they have two very high BT provinces (Carniola and the Austrian Littoral), which puts them well ahead of a lot of tiny cultures around the world, such as the Qasimov and the Welsh.

 

[Camarada78]

There is no way to 'make Albania survive' because it is tag resembling historical Albania. Look at Albania on the world map. It is poor Balkan country of 28 000 km and 3 000 000 people nowadays, back in eu4 times it for sure didn't even have one million inhabitants in its underdeveloped mountains. Hell, it is so small I am not sure splitting it on two provinces would make sense in this game. And it is bordering one of few major empires.

This is what makes Skandeberg's resistance in Albanian - Ottoman war so incredible. IRL this was possible thanks to his 1st class military genius (I am goddamn sure he would establish empire if born in medium-sized country), mountainous terrain of Albania and guerilla warfare. In eu4 there is nothing resembling guerilla and the game engine makes sure 1 province minor can't win in a war against 30 prov empire because if it could conquering anything could be frustrating as hell for the hyman player.

Despite that, AI Albania appears on the map fairly often due to Ottoman lack od stability and multiple foes which cause it to be released almost regularly if green blob has bad times. But on its own it is screwed unless human player reloads to perform some shenanigans and survive initial war.

Anyway, returning to the main topic, creating eu game without compromises and generalisations is simply impossible due to the fact it is game and not history book. Albania with own cultural group would be even more screwed.

I beg to differ, ALBANIA IS MIGHTY:

 

[Shemshin]

Erhm, actually first Slovenian city-states appeared in 9th century and have pretty long history. Plus they were quite developed for Yugoslavia. And they are non too small in a game with Montenegro, Corsica and Gotland as independent states.

I'm talking about countries not polis-like cities.And let's not venture into Yugoslavia.

 

[EldarPanic]

East Latin:
-Romanian
Or if you hate one culture = one culture group
-Vlach
-Moldavian
Attesting that the cultures except the Wallachian and Moldavian are real languages.

Making 2 cultures instead of one would be stupid,very stupid and it would be better if they would put us in the byzantine group this way it would be less offensive and better for strategic reasons.