Culture groups and union nations or where is my Arabia

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I'm guessing Ottomans will be exempt? They are in the culture group. They would form Arabia nearly every game and that would be silly.

Actually, I only see them conquer stuff like Oman rarely. Sometimes they don't even have all of the provinces that comprise Iraq.
 

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Actually, I only see them conquer stuff like Oman rarely. Sometimes they don't even have all of the provinces that comprise Iraq.
We'd have to know the province requirements for forming Arabia, but you are right that an Ottoman A.I. would probably fail to take select important cities if not guided by missions. Ottomans turning into Arabia sounds like a bad idea at any rate. We all know they don't belong in that culture group in the first place, and that it was just done to put their path of conquest as a more tolerated culture.
 

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We'd have to know the province requirements for forming Arabia, but you are right that an Ottoman A.I. would probably fail to take select important cities if not guided by missions. Ottomans turning into Arabia sounds like a bad idea at any rate. We all know they don't belong in that culture group in the first place, and that it was just done to put their path of conquest as a more tolerated culture.

It would be pretty easy to just exclude their tag or include only has culture = Beduoin or Egyptian, or even just set "AI will do = no".
 

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hmm what about Maghreb, Berber, Mashriqi, and Syrian? I assume this is a culture union for the whole Turko-Semetic culture group, right? Excluding Ottomans, would mean excluding the Beyliks too, which I just realized. Or not.

It just seems to me that the WC favorite will become Ottoman->Arabia if nothing is changed, since you would get a HUGE amount of land as accepted culture. Also assuming Arabia doesn't have its own NI's.
 

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While they are at it they should improve germanys flag.

And into what exactly? both Black-White-Red and Black-Red-Gold where products of their times. Black-White-Red is a combination of Prussia's Black-White and the White-Red of the hanseatic cities and was adopted by the Northgerman Federation. In EU4, any German nation that's not Austria or the HRE can form Germany, and no of the three large german hanseatic cities are required to form it. Black-Red-Gold on the other hand were the colours of the uniforms worn by the Lützow Free Corps (baclk coat, red trim, brass buttons), which was the only egiment fighting in the coalition wars that had members from all over Germany. Given that the napoleonic wars will not happen like in real life, with the diploatic frontlines probably being aligned very differently, and that such a military unit is not possible ingame, this flag doesn't make sense either. Although I would love ift a "Lützowsches Freikorps" event could fire for all German States in the early 19th century if there is a war raging. (Maybe lose a bit of manpower and money for a prestige bonus as long as the war in question is active or something)

What they should improve though is the colour of Germany. This strange grey is simply disgusting.
 

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Maghreb as a possible state to form is needed too.

Not to be nitpicking but this state is already in game it's known as Morocco for Europeans. Its Arabic name is Al-Maghrib. So it makes sense like France forming France. Besides what's point of forming it? Most of provinces are Berber and few Maghrebi so you'll get everyone of them accepted anyway. Without adding more culture like Kabylie, Chaoui, Chenouas, Mzab, Zenata it's little to no use. If it is possible to do cross culture union to add accepted Sub-Saharan(or at least Tuareg) and Andalucian then i'm ok with it
 
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And into what exactly?
What they should improve though is the colour of Germany. This strange grey is simply disgusting.
They should use an coat of arms that actually looks like an eagle and not like a mutated chicken- Maybe something like this:
Germany.png
 

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Not to be nitpicking but this state is already in game it's known as Morocco for Europeans. Its Arabic name is Al-Maghrib. So it makes sense like France forming France. Besides what's point of forming it? Most of provinces are Berber and few Maghrebi so you'll get everyone of them accepted anyway. If it is possible to do cross culture union to add accepted Sub-Saharan(or at least Tuareg) and Andalucian then i'm ok with it

In that case, would a name like Al-Ifriqiya be more suitable? As far as the benefits, it would ideally remove the cores of the member nations like Algeria, Tunisia, Tripoli, and Morocco as well as have some other benefits like a permanent modifier.
 

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In that case, would a name like Al-Ifriqiya be more suitable? As far as the benefits, it would ideally remove the cores of the member nations like Algeria, Tunisia, Tripoli, and Morocco as well as have some other benefits like a permanent modifier.

Actually Al-Ifriqiya it's area of countries Tunis and Tripoli....

As i stated above without culture like Kabylie, Chaoui, Chenouas, Mzab, Zenata it's little to no use to form any country. I'd rather see restoring Almohad Caliphate( or Banu Abd-ul-Mumminin) if you own land of Morocco, Algiers, Tunis, Tripoli, Granada and Cordoba and this would maybe add accepted culture though not necessery with cultures as are now.
 

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Not to be nitpicking but this state is already in game it's known as Morocco for Europeans. Its Arabic name is Al-Maghrib. So it makes sense like France forming France. Besides what's point of forming it? Most of provinces are Berber and few Maghrebi so you'll get everyone of them accepted anyway. Without adding more culture like Kabylie, Chaoui, Chenouas, Mzab, Zenata it's little to no use. If it is possible to do cross culture union to add accepted Sub-Saharan(or at least Tuareg) and Andalucian then i'm ok with it

Not 100% correct. For historical references, medieval Arab and Muslim historians and geographers used to refer to Morocco as Al-Maghrib al Aqşá ("The Farthest West"), disambiguating it from neighboring historical regions called Al-Maghrib al Awsat ("The Middle West", Algeria) and Al-Maghrib al Adna ("The Nearest West", Tunisia).
 

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Actually Al-Ifriqiya it's area of countries Tunis and Tripoli....

As i stated above without culture like Kabylie, Chaoui, Chenouas, Mzab, Zenata it's little to no use to form any country. I'd rather see restoring Almohad Caliphate( or Banu Abd-ul-Mumminin) if you own land of Morocco, Algiers, Tunis, Tripoli, Granada and Cordoba and this would maybe add accepted culture though not necessery with cultures as are now.
They're adding new nations in North Africa. They're probably adding the cultures too.
 

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And into what exactly? both Black-White-Red and Black-Red-Gold where products of their times. Black-White-Red is a combination of Prussia's Black-White and the White-Red of the hanseatic cities and was adopted by the Northgerman Federation. In EU4, any German nation that's not Austria or the HRE can form Germany, and no of the three large german hanseatic cities are required to form it. Black-Red-Gold on the other hand were the colours of the uniforms worn by the Lützow Free Corps (baclk coat, red trim, brass buttons), which was the only egiment fighting in the coalition wars that had members from all over Germany. Given that the napoleonic wars will not happen like in real life, with the diploatic frontlines probably being aligned very differently, and that such a military unit is not possible ingame, this flag doesn't make sense either. Although I would love ift a "Lützowsches Freikorps" event could fire for all German States in the early 19th century if there is a war raging. (Maybe lose a bit of manpower and money for a prestige bonus as long as the war in question is active or something)

What they should improve though is the colour of Germany. This strange grey is simply disgusting.
If we they can't give us the black, white, and red flag, can they at least improve visuals of the current flag? That ugly bird needs to be replaced with something more badass looking.. also the ugly yellow color needs to get out of here.